[Pc_Support] AGP 4X/8X

[Read, Greg]

Thanks everyone,

I can't find the voltage to the AGP slot listed anywhere, nor can I find
the voltage to the card listed on XFX's site.

Jason's experience with XFX is strike two.

I'll wait until I upgrade the MB.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pc_support-bounces at matrixlist.com 
> [mailto:pc_support-bounces at matrixlist.com] On Behalf Of Bryan J. Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:39 PM
> To: This is the PC Support list.
> Subject: Re: [Pc_Support] AGP 4X/8X
> 
> On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 15:41 -0400, Read, Greg wrote:
> > I have an old system, Athlon 1700XP and it has an AGP 4X slot; I'm 
> > currently using a NVidia GeForce 3 Ti200 in it.
> > I bough a new LCD monitor that has a DVI input and I wanted 
> to get a 
> > cheap NVidia graphics card that has DVI.
> > I found one on Buy.com, XFX GeForce 6200 128MB DDR AGP Video Card ( 
> > DVI TV-Out VGA ) - PVT44ARA it's $28 after rebate.
> > The catch is, it says it's AGP 8X, can I use it in my 4X slot?
> 
> The NV44 (GeForce 6200) kicks about all pre-NV40 ass -- 
> including the non-TurboCache (which includes AGP) being 4-6x 
> faster than a NV34 (GeForce FX5200/5500):  
> http://thebs413.blogspot.com/2006/02/geforce-6-and-7-series-va
> riants-nuts.html
> 
> > I've seen similar eVGA cards on Newegg that say they are AGP4X/8X, 
> > should I go with one of those?
> 
> Depends.  On my blog, I listed the AGP 1.0 (1x/2x), 2.0 
> (2x/4x) and 3.0
> (4x/8x) voltages:
> http://thebs413.blogspot.com/2005/11/agp-agp-pro-pci-and-pci-x
> -voltage.html
> 
> Many newer AGP 3.0, 0.8V cards are _not_ always 1.5V 
> tolerant.  As such, they do _not_ often work in AGP 2.0 slots 
> that can only do 1.5V (and are possibly 3.3V tolerant).  This 
> has been a major issue with compatibility.
> 
> To make matters worse, if you buy the card and put it in the 
> slot, you _could_ blow it and/or the slot.  Typically the 
> problem is when your older card uses a higher voltage than 
> the newer slot of lower voltage, and a newer card with lower 
> voltage won't blow the older slow of higher voltage.
> 
> But you never know.  And the mainboard as well as the cards 
> do a _poor_ job of telling you.
> 
> I don't know if nVidia did a good job with the NV44 (6200) 
> and 1.5V tolerance -- let alone if vendors are honoring them. 
>  But I can tell you that did _not_ do a good job with the 
> NV43 (6600) when it came to 1.5V tolerance.  They typically 
> _only_ work in AGP 3.0 (4x/8x) slots and _not_ older AGP 2.0 
> (2x/4x) slots.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bryan J. Smith          Professional, technical annoyance
> mailto:b.j.smith at ieee.org    http://thebs413.blogspot.com
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