From b.j.smith at ieee.org Tue Nov 1 13:33:50 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] ADS Replication Issues (Events 1311, 1566) -- WAS: [Off-list] Winternals Message-ID: <20051101183350.8443.qmail@web34104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Someone from the Illinois LUG lists I've been having an off-list thread with. He's joined the list and I'm reposting my most recent response. FYI, the thread started with an inquiry of the Winternals tools -- I'm sure he was talking about the Insight for AD and other goodies. I've never used them, so if you have, please sound off. --- "Bryan J. Smith" wrote: > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:10:59 -0800 (PST) > From: "Bryan J. Smith" > Subject: Re: [Off-list] Re: Winternals > To: Joe Tosetti > > Joe Tosetti wrote: > > I've joined. It's the first Windows list I've ever been > > on. > > I'm on several Windows lists, but all but the one we > created at LEAP seem to be "people networking" lists. > > On the Orlando NT Professionals Association (ONTPA) list, I > remember getting chastized for posting twice in the same > day. And whenever I talked about some great new Freedomware > (Open Source) for Windows, I got a dozen nasty e-mails from > people who think I was trying to sell them software. They > thought it was a trial or, worse yet, some spyware-infested > freeware/shareware. I'd expect that out of some "general > computer club," but not out of a MCSE dominated professional > association. > > > We only have one domain spanning three sites. > > That shouldn't be an issue then. > > > At the risk of getting you started (lol), what is > > "proper" replication. > > I have a general rule -- quadruple the replication time for > every order of magnitude slower your network is. E.g., > > 1000Base -- replicate every 15 minutes (default) > 100Base -- replicate every 1 hour > 10Base -- replicate every 4 hours > T-1 (1.5Mbps) -- replicate every 24 hours (3am) > > For 768+Kbps SDSL, treat as T-1. For ASDL (384Kbps or > lower), manually replicate. > > If you use an out-of-band (OoB) connection dedicated > between DCs, then 100Base can replicate every 15 minutes > without issue IMHO. > > After setting up the Sites in the Sites MMC, I use > "repadmin" to handle quickly playing with and changing > these defaults. > > It's very possible that KCC is running every 15 minutes, > not enough time for you to get full replication between > DCs. > > > I currently let KCC generate the A.D. connections over > > the site links. > > The KCC defaults are a poor set for intersite links IMHO. > KCC defaults are great for 100+Mbps links, but suck on > anything slower IMHO. > > There's a good document on troubleshooting ADS replication > at TechNet here: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Operations/4f504103-1a16-41e1-853a-c68b77bf3f7e.mspx > > > Every seven days we are required to reboot all of the > > domain controllers and any windows servers that provide > > services based off of windows authentication. > > Approximately every 15 minutes event id's 1311 > > Yep, that error typically signifies that KCC is assuming > you have 100Mbps links between sites, but they are far, > far slower. > > > and 1566 > > Interesting, never seen that one before. A quick TechNet > search turned up this very recent article for Windows 2000 > -- something that has yet to be addressed in a service pack: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;268109 > > I would address the 1311 topology/timing issue first, which > might clear up that 1566 with it. > > BTW, don't forget about Microsoft Operations Manager (MOM): > > http://www.microsoft.com/mom/ > > The free 120-day trial here can't hurt: > http://www.microsoft.com/mom/evaluation/trial/ > > I really need to get more experience with it myself > (especially since Microsoft has a new certification for > it). > > Probably most relevant is the Active Directory Management > Pack (ADMP) for Microsoft Operations Manager (MOM). A good > introduction on ADMP is here: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/mom/mom2005/maintain/dirmgmtpackmom.mspx > > > > show up in the directory services log of all of the > > D.C.'s. As far as I can tell there are no warning signs > > in the logs. A.D. printers fail about an hour before > > anything shows up in the diretory services log. > > Yep, sounds like an inconsistency due to a replication not > completing. IIRC, printer shares are the last to be > replicated. And ADS is an Access-Jet store, so that's > going leave it inconsistent regularly -- regardless of what > the KCC tries to do about it. > > > I know there is a clue here since it happens every 7 > > days, but I can't seem to find it. > > 7 * 24 * 4 = almost 700 times a week that KCC runs. > Depending on the throughput of your links (clearly > something that is causing the 1311 error), you'll want to > reduce that to well under 100 -- probably every 4-6 hours > at least. > > > What type of network equipment do you prefer. > > Brand is unimportant. Heck, even NetGear now sells a > sub-$500 layer-3 (RIPv2) switch with 4xGbE + 24x100M, > extensive SNMP/RMON, etc... > > > I've always used Cisco since it was in place here when I > > arrived. > > You're talking to a CCDP (6-exam "Design Professional") so > I have _no_problem_ with Cisco. @-ppp > > I'd really need to know more about your topology. Cisco > should be fine for it. I was just saying that I always > ensure I have a full "bird's eye view" of the physical > network topology/latency/bandwidth before I modify the > sites from the wizard, as well as to repadmin. > > > I've looked at Extreme Networks and they look OK at first > > glance, but I have no experience with them. > > I think they use Linux-based layer-3/4 modules (don't quote > me, could be VxWorks or even some other embedded OS) to > complement their layer-2 fabric, but I also have no > experience with them. -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From tec at homemail.bjt.net Wed Nov 2 02:23:53 2005 From: tec at homemail.bjt.net (Thomas Carlson) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Palm Tungsten E2 and Linux question? In-Reply-To: <436403F6.8020206@charter.net> References: <436403F6.8020206@charter.net> Message-ID: <1130916233.2676.0.camel@xpc.tecsplace> Jerry, Last time I set this up, the symbolic /dev/pilot link needed to have permissions to be more open. Good luck with it. :) Cheers, Thomas On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 18:21 -0500, Jerry W. Hubbard wrote: > If you have setup a Palm, I'm looking at the Tungsten E2, to sync with > Linux (Fedora 3/4 or CentOS) please relate any problems or success. I > would also like to sync with Outlook at work, if that is possible. > > Any help is welcome. Google gave me some hope. :-) > But, you guys may have a better suggestion than the Palm or some good > pointers for the Palm. > A Zaurus was my first choice, but it is out of my price range. :-( > From pctech at htc.net Tue Nov 1 21:12:33 2005 From: pctech at htc.net (JohnH) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] MS Outlook Express Links Don't Work Message-ID: <002701c5df52$ebbb2530$6401a8c0@3a5ah6vqcd> I am having troubles clicking on links within email's. I am using MS OE and not even one link works. Not even the ones within the emails from this list. I take that back, the only links that do work are the ones to a "mailto:" link. JohnH pctech@htc.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.matrixlist.com/pipermail/pc_support/attachments/20051101/ea47ceb7/attachment.html From b.j.smith at ieee.org Wed Nov 2 09:43:04 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Palm Tungsten E2 and Linux question? In-Reply-To: <1130916233.2676.0.camel@xpc.tecsplace> Message-ID: <20051102144305.39444.qmail@web34114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> jerry W. Hubbard wrote: > If you have setup a Palm, I'm looking at the Tungsten E2, > to sync with Linux (Fedora 3/4 or CentOS) please relate > any problems or success. I would also like to sync with > Outlook at work, if that is possible. Thomas Carlson wrote: > Jerry, > Last time I set this up, the symbolic /dev/pilot link > needed to have permissions to be more open. > Good luck with it. :) If it's USB-based, the big kicker in FC3+/RHEL4+ (including CentOS 4+) is udev. You have to add a script to add the proper device, and also ensure the console.perms are set with r/w for the device for the user logged in. Google Handspring USB and udev and you'll probably find the script you need. Those instructions work for the Tungsten, Treo, etc... Otherwise, I'll send you my setup when I get home tonight. As far as syncing with more than 1 system, Linux doesn't have a problem with that. I do it with my Treo 600 to both my notebook and my home system. But I've noted some of the Mac and Windows Palm software might not like having more than one partner. -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From hubbardjw at charter.net Wed Nov 2 22:39:08 2005 From: hubbardjw at charter.net (Jerry W. Hubbard) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Palm Tungsten E2 and Linux question? In-Reply-To: <20051102144305.39444.qmail@web34114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051102144305.39444.qmail@web34114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4369865C.3040407@charter.net> Bryan J. Smith wrote: > > If it's USB-based, the big kicker in FC3+/RHEL4+ (including > CentOS 4+) is udev. You have to add a script to add the > proper device, and also ensure the console.perms are set with > r/w for the device for the user logged in. > > Google Handspring USB and udev and you'll probably find the > script you need. Those instructions work for the Tungsten, > Treo, etc... Otherwise, I'll send you my setup when I get > home tonight. > > As far as syncing with more than 1 system, Linux doesn't have > a problem with that. I do it with my Treo 600 to both my > notebook and my home system. But I've noted some of the Mac > and Windows Palm software might not like having more than one > partner. > It will be this weekend before I may have the time. Any help is welcome. Thanks -- Jerry Hubbard hubbardjw@charter.net From whittake at sbaflorida.com Thu Nov 3 13:28:51 2005 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Re: Pc_Support Internet (LAN) In-Reply-To: <20050927233932.32290.qmail@web34101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050927233932.32290.qmail@web34101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1131042531.10489.18.camel@sbaflorida> My home is serviced by Road Runner cable. The cable runs on the electric poles some 120 feet from the cable modem located in my office. The signal then goes to an IPCop 10 feet away, to a hub with 4 computers attached. My wife's machine is attached to the hub with 60 foot of regular telephone wire, not Cat 5. She has Mandrake on her machine. I have a 10/100 ethernet card (actually two of them) that is/was not too swift but one of the two usually worked. As of several days ago her internet connection refuses to come up, using Mozilla and the KDE browser. The hub connection does not show up from her machine, so in essence it is not connected. I hesitate using WiFi because her machine is fairly close to the road and might be hit by any old snoop going by. One question is,would another 10/100/1000 eth card help? Would another hub work? Or what? Homer Whittaker From tim at mcdonough.net Thu Nov 3 14:17:00 2005 From: tim at mcdonough.net (Tim McDonough) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Re: Pc_Support Internet (LAN) In-Reply-To: <1131042531.10489.18.camel@sbaflorida> References: <20050927233932.32290.qmail@web34101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1131042531.10489.18.camel@sbaflorida> Message-ID: <436A622C.10705@mcdonough.net> Homer Whittaker wrote: > I hesitate using WiFi because her machine is fairly close to the road > and might be hit by any old snoop going by. One question is,would > another 10/100/1000 eth card help? Would another hub work? Or what? > Homer Whittaker Can you verify the port on the hub you're using functions with another machine? Can you move her machine near the hub temporarily and connect it with a known good cable to see if the NIC in her machine is functioning? I would install a proper CAT5 cable no matter what. Sounds like you're just inviting problems. Tim From whittake at sbaflorida.com Thu Nov 3 14:59:21 2005 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Re: Pc_Support Internet (LAN) In-Reply-To: <436A622C.10705@mcdonough.net> References: <20050927233932.32290.qmail@web34101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1131042531.10489.18.camel@sbaflorida> <436A622C.10705@mcdonough.net> Message-ID: <200511031459.21936.whittake@sbaflorida.com> On Thursday 03 November 2005 14:17, Tim McDonough wrote: > Homer Whittaker wrote: > > I hesitate using WiFi because her machine is fairly close to > > the road and might be hit by any old snoop going by. One > > question is,would another 10/100/1000 eth card help? Would > > another hub work? Or what? Homer Whittaker > > Can you verify the port on the hub you're using functions with > another machine? Yes, I have switched it between several other "working" ports and have recycled the smart hub. Nada. > > Can you move her machine near the hub temporarily and connect > it with a known good cable to see if the NIC in her machine is > functioning? Not really. It is her office and I it took me two years to get her to use the machine. Now I cannot get her off it. > > I would install a proper CAT5 cable no matter what. Sounds > like you're just inviting problems. Well 100 ft (min) roll of Cat 5 is significant in view of the fact that we have our house up for sale and we will be moving into a much smaller home. > > Tim > _______________________________________________ > Pc_support mailing list > Pc_support@matrixlist.com > http://lists.matrixlist.com/mailman/listinfo/pc_support From b.j.smith at ieee.org Thu Nov 3 15:45:45 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Hughes $250 HD DirecTiVO now only $479 ... Message-ID: <20051103204545.10532.qmail@web34114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> No rebates, no activation, etc... required like in the stores. Great for those of us who already have the TiVO service! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16882150003 These were just $999 and, more recently, $699 not long ago. I'm kinda curious if it has something to do with TiVO's 2007+ split with TiVO? I mean, given that there is a good chance it'll probably only be good for another 18-24 months, could I save yet another $100-200 by waiting just 2-3 months more? Or is it even worth it at this point? -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From b.j.smith at ieee.org Fri Nov 4 12:03:24 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] AOpen F90GS 19" LCD on sale yet again ($289 - $70 rebate) ... Message-ID: <20051104170324.67850.qmail@web34105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I actually own this model: http://lists.leap-cf.org/pipermail/pc_support/2005-August/000824.html It's now $20 cheaper after rebate: http://dealnews.com/deals/AOpen-F90-GS-19-LCD-display-for-220-after-rebate/99562.html I'm actually using this monitor at work thanx to the 2 inputs. I'm sure I'm letting the refresh go to waste (no gaming at work). I have the 2 Sceptres (one older, 25ms x9g Komodo II* and the newer, 8ms x9g Naga III) at home. http://lists.leap-cf.org/pipermail/pc_support/2005-October/001145.html -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From b.j.smith at ieee.org Fri Nov 4 18:26:18 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Acer S754 Mobile Sempron 3000+, integrated wireless, $499 ... Message-ID: <20051104232618.49329.qmail@web34105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Slight better deal than the Dell Celeron M notebooks for what you get, and only $29 to ship (instead of $49 for Dell 1200s): http://dealnews.com/deals/Acer-Aspire-AS3003-LCi-1-8-GHz-15-Laptop-for-500-after-rebate/99581.html -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From b.j.smith at ieee.org Fri Nov 4 18:35:57 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Maxtor 100GB Serial ATA (SATA) drive $99.99 - $65.00 rebate Message-ID: <20051104233557.79287.qmail@web34101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those looking for a cheap SATA drive and you don't mind waiting on rebates, this 7200rpm, 8MB buffer, 100GB Maxtor is nice for $34.99 net: http://dealnews.com/deals/Maxtor-100-GB-Serial-ATA-Hard-Drive-for-35-after-rebate/99515.html -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From jasonb at edseek.com Fri Nov 4 18:37:02 2005 From: jasonb at edseek.com (Jason Boxman) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Acer S754 Mobile Sempron 3000+, integrated wireless, $499 ... In-Reply-To: <20051104232618.49329.qmail@web34105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051104232618.49329.qmail@web34105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200511041837.03012.jasonb@edseek.com> On Friday 04 November 2005 18:26, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > Slight better deal than the Dell Celeron M notebooks for what > you get, and only $29 to ship (instead of $49 for Dell > 1200s): > http://dealnews.com/deals/Acer-Aspire-AS3003-LCi-1-8-GHz-15-Laptop-for-500- >after-rebate/99581.html How's battery life these days? Are mobile AMD chips competitive with Intel's mobile chips? I rarely buy laptops, so I haven't kept up. -- Jason Boxman http://edseek.com/ - Linux and FOSS stuff From b.j.smith at ieee.org Fri Nov 4 20:16:25 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Acer S754 Mobile Sempron 3000+, integrated wireless, $499 ... In-Reply-To: <200511041837.03012.jasonb@edseek.com> Message-ID: <20051105011626.82669.qmail@web34102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jason Boxman wrote: > How's battery life these days? Are mobile AMD chips > competitive with Intel's mobile chips? Depends on the product used. I don't know what series/revision is used in those notebooks, but since it's a S754, it is probably a 31W variant. That's much lower than the original mobile Athlon XPs. Intel's Pentium M are 21W, while their Pentium 4 Mobiles are in excess of 60+W. Celeron Ms are not exactly as good as their Pentium M brothers, on-purpose by Intel. > I rarely buy laptops, so I haven't kept up. I can't tell from the product specs. I'll have to do some more research. But they seemed to be a heck of a lot better than the Celeron Ms for the price -- feature-wise. -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net Fri Nov 4 21:22:33 2005 From: ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net (Austin Denyer (Ozz)) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] It's here! Message-ID: <20051104212233.79ca2979.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> Hi Guys. The nice FedEx man delivered my new workstation today. Tyan K8WE MoBo, Dual-Opteron246 CPU, 2GB RAM, 2x200GB SATAII HDD, EVGA GeForce 6600GT, Thermaltake XaserIII V1000A case. It ROCKS!!!!! Several people complained that "A machine with that many fans in it is gonna sound like a jet when you power it up", only to be awestruck when told that it was already running. I used a modified version of the Debian AMD64 netinstall CD, as the standard one used the 2.6.8-2 kernel, which has limited hardware detection. This had the 2.6.12 kernel (thanks to Len Sorensen over on the Debian-AMD64 list), and installed fine with the exception of the network drivers - it only found/loaded drivers for the firewire networking, which I don't use. By continuing with the install and rebooting, the forcedeth drivers loaded fine. A quick hack of the network config files and I was up and running. I then just upgraded to the 2.6.14-2-amd64-k8-smp kernel and I was good to go. (There is a bug in the Opteron CPU that causes issues when running in SMP mode, and the work-around was only just included in that kernel.) Two gotchas. 1. When I installed X/KDE it swapped my NICs around (?!?!?). 2. I haven't managed to get the nVidia video drivers working yet. The official nVidia drivers will not load on X startup (although they did appear to compile OK, and modprobe doesn't barf on them), and the nv driver causes display corruption after a few mins. I'm running the vesa driver right now without issue. As far as (2) goes, I've heard that the nVidia drivers don't yet work with kernels > 2.6.12, but I need the 2.6.14-2 kernel for SMP. Can anyone confirm/deny/provide pointers for a workaround? Anyhoo, the thing FLIES! OpenOffice2 (run from a 32-bit chroot) loads in 3 secs. The Gimp loads in under 1 sec. I've only carved up one disk so far - I'm considering going to RAID-1 at some stage. I've tacked a few stats at the end to get the juices going... Many, MANY thanks to all who provided input and convinced me to buy this kit. Regards, Ozz. dev05:/home/adenyer# uname -a Linux dev05 2.6.14-1-amd64-k8-smp #1 SMP Wed Nov 2 20:53:55 CET 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux dev05:/home/adenyer# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 5 model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 stepping : 10 cpu MHz : 2009.303 cache size : 1024 KB fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow bogomips : 4021.17 TLB size : 1024 4K pages clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp processor : 1 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 5 model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 stepping : 10 cpu MHz : 2009.303 cache size : 1024 KB fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow bogomips : 4017.97 TLB size : 1024 4K pages clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp dev05:/home/adenyer# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda7 7.4G 348M 6.7G 5% / /dev/sda1 45M 15M 27M 36% /boot /dev/sda14 103G 5.6G 92G 6% /home /dev/sda12 7.4G 33M 7.0G 1% /tmp /dev/sda8 15G 1.4G 13G 10% /usr /dev/sda9 7.4G 530M 6.5G 8% /var /dev/sda10 15G 33M 14G 1% /var/www /dev/sda13 15G 701M 14G 5% /chroot/32bit /home 103G 5.6G 92G 6% /chroot/32bit/home /tmp 7.4G 33M 7.0G 1% /chroot/32bit/tmp tmpfs 1006M 0 1006M 0% /dev/shm fdisk /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 6 48163+ 83 Linux /dev/sda2 7 12 48195 83 Linux /dev/sda3 13 24321 195262042+ 5 Extended /dev/sda5 13 498 3903763+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda6 499 984 3903763+ 83 Linux /dev/sda7 985 1957 7815591 83 Linux /dev/sda8 1958 3902 15623181 83 Linux /dev/sda9 3903 4875 7815591 83 Linux /dev/sda10 4876 6820 15623181 83 Linux /dev/sda11 6821 7793 7815591 83 Linux /dev/sda12 7794 8766 7815591 83 Linux /dev/sda13 8767 10711 15623181 83 Linux /dev/sda14 10712 24321 109322293+ 83 Linux fdisk /dev/hdb Disk /dev/sdb: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System top - 16:49:15 up 56 min, 2 users, load average: 0.82, 0.70, 0.49 Tasks: 97 total, 2 running, 95 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 13.5% us, 6.7% sy, 0.0% ni, 69.1% id, 7.8% wa, 1.2% hi, 1.7% si Mem: 2059056k total, 2047008k used, 12048k free, 4096k buffers Swap: 3903752k total, 0k used, 3903752k free, 1786264k cached From m9u35g at gmail.com Fri Nov 4 23:06:25 2005 From: m9u35g at gmail.com (Justin M. Keyes) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Acer S754 Mobile Sempron 3000+, integrated wireless, $499 ... In-Reply-To: <20051104232618.49329.qmail@web34105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051104232618.49329.qmail@web34105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46f680d0511042006h56f63a51k8eeca14ca234708f@mail.gmail.com> On 11/4/05, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > Slight better deal than the Dell Celeron M notebooks for what > you get, and only $29 to ship (instead of $49 for Dell > 1200s): > http://dealnews.com/deals/Acer-Aspire-AS3003-LCi-1-8-GHz-15-Laptop-for-500-after-rebate/99581.html Nice! I have been flirting with the idea of a budget laptop... -- Justin Keyes From philb at philb.us Sat Nov 5 01:56:35 2005 From: philb at philb.us (Phil Barnett) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] It's here! In-Reply-To: <20051104212233.79ca2979.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> References: <20051104212233.79ca2979.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> Message-ID: <200511050156.35890.philb@philb.us> On Friday 04 November 2005 09:22 pm, Austin Denyer wrote: > As far as (2) goes, I've heard that the nVidia drivers don't yet work > with kernels > 2.6.12, but I need the 2.6.14-2 kernel for SMP. > Can anyone confirm/deny/provide pointers for a workaround? nvidia drivers working here... (compiled) $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.13-1.1532_FC4 #1 Thu Oct 20 01:30:08 EDT 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux -- "In communism, man exploits man. In capitalism, it's the other way around." From philb at philb.us Sat Nov 5 02:01:14 2005 From: philb at philb.us (Phil Barnett) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] video card question Message-ID: <200511050201.14832.philb@philb.us> How does the nvidia FX-5600 compare to the GF3 TI-500? Woot's got them for $30. No digital out. -- "In communism, man exploits man. In capitalism, it's the other way around." From whittake at sbaflorida.com Sat Nov 5 10:57:04 2005 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] It's here! In-Reply-To: <20051104212233.79ca2979.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> References: <20051104212233.79ca2979.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> Message-ID: <200511051057.04642.whittake@sbaflorida.com> Made me drool! If you don't mind tellin, how much did that dude set you back? Homer On Friday 04 November 2005 21:22, Austin Denyer wrote: > Hi Guys. > > The nice FedEx man delivered my new workstation today. > > Tyan K8WE MoBo, Dual-Opteron246 CPU, 2GB RAM, 2x200GB SATAII > HDD, EVGA GeForce 6600GT, Thermaltake XaserIII V1000A case. > > It ROCKS!!!!! > > Several people complained that "A machine with that many fans > in it is gonna sound like a jet when you power it up", only to > be awestruck when told that it was already running. > > I used a modified version of the Debian AMD64 netinstall CD, > as the standard one used the 2.6.8-2 kernel, which has limited > hardware detection. This had the 2.6.12 kernel (thanks to Len > Sorensen over on the Debian-AMD64 list), and installed fine > with the exception of the network drivers - it only > found/loaded drivers for the firewire networking, which I > don't use. By continuing with the install and rebooting, the > forcedeth drivers loaded fine. A quick hack of the network > config files and I was up and running. I then just upgraded to > the 2.6.14-2-amd64-k8-smp kernel and I was good to go. (There > is a bug in the Opteron CPU that causes issues when running in > SMP mode, and the work-around was only just included in that > kernel.) > > Two gotchas. > 1. When I installed X/KDE it swapped my NICs around (?!?!?). > 2. I haven't managed to get the nVidia video drivers working > yet. The official nVidia drivers will not load on X startup > (although they did appear to compile OK, and modprobe doesn't > barf on them), and the nv driver causes display corruption > after a few mins. I'm running the vesa driver right now > without issue. > > As far as (2) goes, I've heard that the nVidia drivers don't > yet work with kernels > 2.6.12, but I need the 2.6.14-2 kernel > for SMP. Can anyone confirm/deny/provide pointers for a > workaround? > > Anyhoo, the thing FLIES! > > OpenOffice2 (run from a 32-bit chroot) loads in 3 secs. > The Gimp loads in under 1 sec. > > I've only carved up one disk so far - I'm considering going to > RAID-1 at some stage. > > I've tacked a few stats at the end to get the juices going... > > Many, MANY thanks to all who provided input and convinced me > to buy this kit. > > Regards, > Ozz. > > dev05:/home/adenyer# uname -a > Linux dev05 2.6.14-1-amd64-k8-smp #1 SMP Wed Nov 2 20:53:55 > CET 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > > dev05:/home/adenyer# cat /proc/cpuinfo > processor : 0 > vendor_id : AuthenticAMD > cpu family : 15 > model : 5 > model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 > stepping : 10 > cpu MHz : 2009.303 > cache size : 1024 KB > fpu : yes > fpu_exception : yes > cpuid level : 1 > wp : yes > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep > mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall > nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow > bogomips : 4021.17 > TLB size : 1024 4K pages > clflush size : 64 > cache_alignment : 64 > address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual > power management: ts fid vid ttp > > processor : 1 > vendor_id : AuthenticAMD > cpu family : 15 > model : 5 > model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 > stepping : 10 > cpu MHz : 2009.303 > cache size : 1024 KB > fpu : yes > fpu_exception : yes > cpuid level : 1 > wp : yes > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep > mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall > nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow > bogomips : 4017.97 > TLB size : 1024 4K pages > clflush size : 64 > cache_alignment : 64 > address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual > power management: ts fid vid ttp > > > dev05:/home/adenyer# df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda7 7.4G 348M 6.7G 5% / > /dev/sda1 45M 15M 27M 36% /boot > /dev/sda14 103G 5.6G 92G 6% /home > /dev/sda12 7.4G 33M 7.0G 1% /tmp > /dev/sda8 15G 1.4G 13G 10% /usr > /dev/sda9 7.4G 530M 6.5G 8% /var > /dev/sda10 15G 33M 14G 1% /var/www > /dev/sda13 15G 701M 14G 5% /chroot/32bit > /home 103G 5.6G 92G 6% /chroot/32bit/home > /tmp 7.4G 33M 7.0G 1% /chroot/32bit/tmp > tmpfs 1006M 0 1006M 0% /dev/shm > > > fdisk /dev/sda > > Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 1 6 48163+ 83 Linux > /dev/sda2 7 12 48195 83 Linux > /dev/sda3 13 24321 195262042+ 5 > Extended /dev/sda5 13 498 3903763+ > 82 Linux swap / Solaris > /dev/sda6 499 984 3903763+ 83 Linux > /dev/sda7 985 1957 7815591 83 Linux > /dev/sda8 1958 3902 15623181 83 Linux > /dev/sda9 3903 4875 7815591 83 Linux > /dev/sda10 4876 6820 15623181 83 Linux > /dev/sda11 6821 7793 7815591 83 Linux > /dev/sda12 7794 8766 7815591 83 Linux > /dev/sda13 8767 10711 15623181 83 Linux > /dev/sda14 10712 24321 109322293+ 83 Linux > > > fdisk /dev/hdb > > Disk /dev/sdb: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > > > top - 16:49:15 up 56 min, 2 users, load average: 0.82, 0.70, > 0.49 Tasks: 97 total, 2 running, 95 sleeping, 0 stopped, > 0 zombie Cpu(s): 13.5% us, 6.7% sy, 0.0% ni, 69.1% id, > 7.8% wa, 1.2% hi, 1.7% si > Mem: 2059056k total, 2047008k used, 12048k free, > 4096k buffers Swap: 3903752k total, 0k used, 3903752k > free, 1786264k cached > > _______________________________________________ > Pc_support mailing list > Pc_support@matrixlist.com > http://lists.matrixlist.com/mailman/listinfo/pc_support From whittake at sbaflorida.com Sat Nov 5 11:18:56 2005 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] It's here! In-Reply-To: <20051104212233.79ca2979.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> References: <20051104212233.79ca2979.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> Message-ID: <200511051118.57147.whittake@sbaflorida.com> Contains the netboot debian-installer using a USB memory stick. This wonderfull but I do not know how to use it. The machine I want to put it on is an AMD64 Asus K8 with a portion of Gentoo on the /dev/hda (not yet fully installed) and of course I left enough room on /dev/hda1 to include both the Gentoo and the Debian AMD64 kernels in the /boot partition. However, as I said the Gentoo is only partially installed and at this point, may never get installed (too many frustrations). My second hard drive is a WD 120 Gig with nothing on it, and since the Gentoo is seeing the internet I figured I might use it to get the 64 bit machine into action and then at some time off in the future get back to the Gentoo install. I need assistance in the following areas: 1. Which files do I need from the http://amd64.debian.net/debian-installer/daily/netboot/ which contains the netboot debian-installer using a USB memory stick. 2. How do I get the above files loaded into the 64 bit machine? As I said, the Gentoo is partially loaded and I can see the net via RoadRunner cable but have not been able to locate the usb connection to download the memory stick. Thanks for any assistance. Homer Whittaker From b.j.smith at ieee.org Sat Nov 5 11:28:37 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] video card question In-Reply-To: <200511050201.14832.philb@philb.us> References: <200511050201.14832.philb@philb.us> Message-ID: <1131208117.5217.14.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 02:01 -0500, Phil Barnett wrote: > How does the nvidia FX-5600 compare to the GF3 TI-500? All depends on the clock and the RAM timing/sync. Most newer 5600/5700 models are heavily underclocked from their original versions to get better yields, as they are more commodity. For the most part, the NV3x (FX) series stinks compared to the NV2x (3/4Ti) in raw frames. The FX offers newer capabilities, especially when it comes to anti-aliasing and other performance. Unfortunately, unless you get a FX 5800+, the performance has been severely lackluster to sustain frame-rates with those features turned on -- with the 5200/5500 absolutely horrendous, the 5600/5700 not much better (especially not the newer, "commodity" versions that are underclocked as much as 40+% from the originals), and only the 5800+ being of any worth. And even then, a $50 GeForce 6200 might be better. You can assume a GeForce3 Ti500 will perform about 20-25% slower than a GeForce4 Ti4200, a GeForce3 Ti200 about 30-40% slower. A good comparison of lower-end cards is here with Unreal Tournament 2004 at 1024x768. If you have high-quality, but AA off, the NV25/28 (GeForce4 Ti) is a good 50-100% faster than a NV30/31/34 (GeForce 5200-5600): http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-05.html Once you turn on anti-aliasing, then the 5600 starts doing much better, while the 5200/5500 right down with the GeForce4 Ti. FYI, those benchmarks are of the _original_ GeForce 5600/5700, not the "watered down" LE/SE/whatever versions you often find on the shelf -- which are 40% _slower_. Now here's the full GeForceFX 5700 (about 60% faster than the "5700LE" you'll find on the shelf) those same cards against newer cards: http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050705/vga-charts-pcie-03.html The GeForce 6200, which is $50+, is definitely going to beat the GeForceFX 5700 regularly, or at least match it (even though it's not on the chart). The GeForce 6600 sub-$100 (non-DDR "GT" version), is definitely right there with the GeForce FX5800. And the GeForce 6600GT is going to beat _any_ GeForce FX series, even the 5950 Ultra, which still costs more money. > Woot's got them for $30. No digital out. Always remember that AGP is not always compatible, voltage-wise. So if you have an older AGP 2.0 or, especially, 1.0 mainboard, don't expect many AGP x8 cards to work. Many AGP x8 cards these days only do 0.8V, which AGP 2.0 (x4) mainboards won't support. Pretty much all FX and newer are AGP x8 only, and it's hard to guarantee they will support the older 1.5V. -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith@ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The best things in life are NOT free - which is why life is easiest if you save all the bills until you can share them with the perfect woman From ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net Sat Nov 5 11:37:05 2005 From: ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net (Austin Denyer (Ozz)) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] It's here! In-Reply-To: <200511051057.04642.whittake@sbaflorida.com> References: <20051104212233.79ca2979.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> <200511051057.04642.whittake@sbaflorida.com> Message-ID: <20051105113705.24be93c2.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 10:57:04 -0500, Homer Whittaker wrote: > > Made me drool! If you don't mind tellin, how much did that dude > set you back? > Homer All told it was a little under $2,100 including delivery. It included a DVD-burner, 550W power supply and speakers, but no mouse/keyboard/screen as I already had those. The case is beautiful. Here's a link to it... http://www.thermaltake.com/xaserCase/xaser3/v1000a.htm The beast really screams. I'm sure it's creating a rift in the space/time continuum somewhere! I can only imagine how it would have performed if I'd been able to go the extra few hundred bucks and get a pair of dual-core CPUs instead of a pair of single-core chips... I really do owe a lot to TheBS and Damien for their help and advice while I was looking at specifications. Thanks again Guys. Regards, Ozz. From b.j.smith at ieee.org Sat Nov 5 11:41:59 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] It's here! In-Reply-To: <20051104212233.79ca2979.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> References: <20051104212233.79ca2979.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> Message-ID: <1131208919.5217.27.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 21:22 -0500, Austin Denyer wrote: > Hi Guys. > The nice FedEx man delivered my new workstation today. > Tyan K8WE MoBo, Dual-Opteron246 CPU, 2GB RAM, 2x200GB SATAII HDD, EVGA > GeForce 6600GT, Thermaltake XaserIII V1000A case. > It ROCKS!!!!! Glad to hear! Remember to update to the latest BIOS on those mainboards. There was some issues a few months back with Cool'n Quiet reliability under Linux (and Windows Server 2003) until a BIOS update. > I used a modified version of the Debian AMD64 netinstall CD, as the > standard one used the 2.6.8-2 kernel, which has limited hardware > detection. This had the 2.6.12 kernel (thanks to Len Sorensen > over on the Debian-AMD64 list), and installed fine with the exception of > the network drivers - it only found/loaded drivers for the firewire > networking, which I don't use. By continuing with the install and > rebooting, the forcedeth drivers loaded fine. The forcedeth drivers seem to be good for GbE performance now. As someone corrected me on the Fedora development list about 3-4 months ago, nVidia's legal shackles have been off for the last 12+ months. While they still offer the closed source "nvnet," the have had active people on the GPL "forcedeth" driver since 2004, including full disclosure. > A quick hack of the > network config files and I was up and running. I then just upgraded to > the 2.6.14-2-amd64-k8-smp kernel and I was good to go. (There is a bug > in the Opteron CPU that causes issues when running in SMP mode, and the > work-around was only just included in that kernel.) Which bug was that? I know there many errata coming out all-the-time with the Opteron's compatibility modes (i.e., so the Linux kernel can treat it like a "front-side bottleneck" processor, instead of its true NUMA/multi-point calling). > Two gotchas. > 1. When I installed X/KDE it swapped my NICs around (?!?!?). Interesting. The PCI bus order is defined by the APIC/ACPI, typically at POST. You're going to experience the greatest number of busses you've ever seen -- the sucker has 3 different HyperTransport tunnels, the nForce Pro 2200 and 2050 (20 PCIe channels _each_) and the AMD8131 (2 PCI-X channels). > 2. I haven't managed to get the nVidia video drivers working yet. The > official nVidia drivers will not load on X startup (although they did > appear to compile OK, and modprobe doesn't barf on them), and the nv > driver causes display corruption after a few mins. I'm running the vesa > driver right now without issue. Is the new Debian using udev? If so, that's the issue. The devices need to be created. What do you see in /proc/driver/? If the nVidia driver loads successfully, then you will see it there. Cat those files if they exist. In that case, it's definitely the lack of udev devices, which you'll need to create. As far as corruption on the "nv" driver, what Xorg version? If it's an older version, then yeah, that's your problem. Although the older Xorg release for NV3x (FX) will still drive NV4x (6xxx) series cards, you're going to have issues. > As far as (2) goes, I've heard that the nVidia drivers don't yet work > with kernels > 2.6.12, but I need the 2.6.14-2 kernel for SMP. > Can anyone confirm/deny/provide pointers for a workaround? Interesting. Do you have links to this information? Frankly, I think nVidia is lax in getting the latest Forceware 75 drivers over to Linux, probably because they have been so focused on Forceware 80 for Windows. > Anyhoo, the thing FLIES! > OpenOffice2 (run from a 32-bit chroot) loads in 3 secs. > The Gimp loads in under 1 sec. > I've only carved up one disk so far - I'm considering going to RAID-1 > at some stage. > I've tacked a few stats at the end to get the juices going... > Many, MANY thanks to all who provided input and convinced me to buy > this kit. > dev05:/home/adenyer# cat /proc/cpuinfo > model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 > cache size : 1024 KB The design of the Opteron at 2.0GHz with 1MiB L2 (and 64+64KiB L1) is like having a 4.0GHz Pentium 4 with 1MiB L2 (and it's measily 16KiB + 8Kops L1). > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge > mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm > 3dnowext 3dnow No SSE3 for programs that Intel has tricked people into such lossy math. Oh well, it looks like the older Rev. D, but that's not really an issue in Linux. > fdisk /dev/sda > Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Yep, the first "nv_sata" device. > fdisk /dev/hdb ^^^ typo? > Disk /dev/sdb: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > top - 16:49:15 up 56 min, 2 users, load average: 0.82, 0.70, 0.49 > Tasks: 97 total, 2 running, 95 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie > Cpu(s): 13.5% us, 6.7% sy, 0.0% ni, 69.1% id, 7.8% wa, 1.2% hi, > 1.7% si > Mem: 2059056k total, 2047008k used, 12048k free, 4096k buffers > Swap: 3903752k total, 0k used, 3903752k free, 1786264k cached No games above 1GiB, you have full access to the entire 40-bit space of the EV6 address model. -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith@ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The best things in life are NOT free - which is why life is easiest if you save all the bills until you can share them with the perfect woman From b.j.smith at ieee.org Sat Nov 5 11:45:50 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] It's here! In-Reply-To: <200511050156.35890.philb@philb.us> References: <20051104212233.79ca2979.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> <200511050156.35890.philb@philb.us> Message-ID: <1131209150.5217.32.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 01:56 -0500, Phil Barnett wrote: > nvidia drivers working here... (compiled) > $ uname -a > Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.13-1.1532_FC4 #1 Thu Oct 20 01:30:08 EDT 2005 > i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux I think he was referring to ... 1. Opteron 2xx (or 8xx) series (dual to 8-way) 2. Linux/x86-64 kernel AMD will always have to deal with the fact that it's architecture doesn't have full OS support yet (except for maybe in Solaris), so it has to ensure that it's "front-side bottleneck" compatibility for assumptions in the OS work flawlessly. Unfortunately, there are always issues with that -- because of the extra coherency placed in hardware. So the fact that the Opteron has compatibility issues with video and other I/O designed for Intel platforms doesn't surprise me. Intel is just now getting into multiple FSBs with its new Socket-771 platform, and will run into much of what AMD already learned on the Athlon MP. But even then, they don't have the issue that AMD has -- multiple I/O channels. ;-> I'd be interest in any links he has to those issues mentioned. I'd like to know more about them, because I want to know where AMD's backward compatibility on the interconnect is still lacking. -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith@ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The best things in life are NOT free - which is why life is easiest if you save all the bills until you can share them with the perfect woman From b.j.smith at ieee.org Sat Nov 5 12:42:48 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] video card question In-Reply-To: <1131208117.5217.14.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> References: <200511050201.14832.philb@philb.us> <1131208117.5217.14.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> Message-ID: <1131212568.5217.44.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 10:28 -0600, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > Always remember that AGP is not always compatible, voltage-wise. So if > you have an older AGP 2.0 or, especially, 1.0 mainboard, don't expect > many AGP x8 cards to work. Many AGP x8 cards these days only do 0.8V, > which AGP 2.0 (x4) mainboards won't support. > Pretty much all FX and newer are AGP x8 only, and it's hard to guarantee > they will support the older 1.5V. Voltages/power of slots/cards has been mentioned on 2 other lists today, so I'm starting a blog entry ... http://thebs413.blogspot.com/2005/11/agp-agp-pro-pci-and-pci-x-voltage.html I'm off to see UCF plummel Houston's butt (Homecoming), so I'll finish it tonight. -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith@ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The best things in life are NOT free - which is why life is easiest if you save all the bills until you can share them with the perfect woman From ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net Sat Nov 5 13:42:19 2005 From: ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net (Austin Denyer (Ozz)) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: Opteron errata / nVidia issues - links and stuff [was Re: [Pc_Support] It's here!] In-Reply-To: <1131209150.5217.32.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> References: <20051104212233.79ca2979.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> <200511050156.35890.philb@philb.us> <1131209150.5217.32.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> Message-ID: <20051105134219.5fcfcfad.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:45:50 -0600, "Bryan J. Smith" wrote: > > On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 01:56 -0500, Phil Barnett wrote: > > nvidia drivers working here... (compiled) > > $ uname -a > > Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.13-1.1532_FC4 #1 Thu Oct 20 01:30:08 EDT 2005 > > i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux > > I think he was referring to ... > 1. Opteron 2xx (or 8xx) series (dual to 8-way) > 2. Linux/x86-64 kernel That's correct. These are Opteron 246 CPUs, Debian amd64 distro. > AMD will always have to deal with the fact that it's architecture > doesn't have full OS support yet (except for maybe in Solaris), so it > has to ensure that it's "front-side bottleneck" compatibility for > assumptions in the OS work flawlessly. Unfortunately, there are always > issues with that -- because of the extra coherency placed in hardware. > > So the fact that the Opteron has compatibility issues with video and > other I/O designed for Intel platforms doesn't surprise me. Intel is > just now getting into multiple FSBs with its new Socket-771 platform, > and will run into much of what AMD already learned on the Athlon MP. > But even then, they don't have the issue that AMD has -- multiple I/O > channels. ;-> The new Intel dual-cores are downright pathetic from the reviews I've seen so far. > I'd be interest in any links he has to those issues mentioned. I'd like > to know more about them, because I want to know where AMD's backward > compatibility on the interconnect is still lacking. See below. Regards, Ozz. Here's a link to the kernel patch issue. It's long, so I've reproduced the clip below. http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/ChangeLog-2.6.14-rc2 commit bc5e8fdfc622b03acf5ac974a1b8b26da6511c99 Author: Linus Torvalds Date: Sat Sep 17 15:41:04 2005 -0700 x86-64/smp: fix random SIGSEGV issues They seem to have been due to AMD errata 63/122; the fix is to disable TLB flush filtering in SMP configurations. Confirmed to fix the problem by Andrew Walrond [ Let's see if we'll have a better fix eventually, this is the Q&D "let's get this fixed and out there" version ] Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds And here's another link: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/9/20/207 Date Tue, 20 Sep 2005 10:30:48 -0700 (PDT) From Linus Torvalds <> Subject Re: x86-64 bad pmds in 2.6.11.6 On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Charles McCreary wrote: > > Another datapoint for this thread. The box spewing the bad pmds messages is a > dual opteron 246 on a TYAN S2885 Thunder K8W motherboard. Kernel is > 2.6.11.4-20a-smp. This is quite possibly the result of an Opteron errata (tlb flush filtering is broken on SMP) that we worked around as of 2.6.14-rc4. So either just try 2.6.14-rc2, or try the appended patch (it has since been confirmed by many more people). Linus And finally, details of the nVidia kernel issue. This is from the Debian-amd64 mailing list. From: Hans To: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org Cc: Gilles Subject: Re: nvidia (graphics) driver pain Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:07:13 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 Am Donnerstag, 3. November 2005 15:11 schrieb Gilles: > > I had a similar problem. Please remember, that nvidia-kernel and > > nvidai-glx must be the same version. > > Both are from version 1.0.7676-1. So that's not the problem... > > But I didn't install "nvidia-glx-ia32". Is it necessary? > > > Gilles No, this is only necessary, if you want to use 32-bit programs in 64-bit environment (I use this i.e. for X-Plane (this is a flight simulator)). BTW: In Kernel 2.6.14, the kernel-module can be built, but not loaded, due to an obsolete parameter in the sources ! I recommend to use 2.6.12, this work fine. But use 7174, 7176 and higher will not work (so it is for me). From ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net Sat Nov 5 13:47:26 2005 From: ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net (Austin Denyer (Ozz)) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] It's here! In-Reply-To: <1131208919.5217.27.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> References: <20051104212233.79ca2979.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> <1131208919.5217.27.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> Message-ID: <20051105134726.2ab5bc51.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:41:59 -0600, "Bryan J. Smith" wrote: > On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 21:22 -0500, Austin Denyer wrote: > > Hi Guys. > > The nice FedEx man delivered my new workstation today. > > Tyan K8WE MoBo, Dual-Opteron246 CPU, 2GB RAM, 2x200GB SATAII HDD, EVGA > > GeForce 6600GT, Thermaltake XaserIII V1000A case. > > It ROCKS!!!!! > > Glad to hear! > > Remember to update to the latest BIOS on those mainboards. There was > some issues a few months back with Cool'n Quiet reliability under Linux > (and Windows Server 2003) until a BIOS update. It has the latest BIOS. > > I used a modified version of the Debian AMD64 netinstall CD, as the > > standard one used the 2.6.8-2 kernel, which has limited hardware > > detection. This had the 2.6.12 kernel (thanks to Len Sorensen > > over on the Debian-AMD64 list), and installed fine with the exception of > > the network drivers - it only found/loaded drivers for the firewire > > networking, which I don't use. By continuing with the install and > > rebooting, the forcedeth drivers loaded fine. > > The forcedeth drivers seem to be good for GbE performance now. As > someone corrected me on the Fedora development list about 3-4 months > ago, nVidia's legal shackles have been off for the last 12+ months. > While they still offer the closed source "nvnet," the have had active > people on the GPL "forcedeth" driver since 2004, including full > disclosure. I like them. > > A quick hack of the > > network config files and I was up and running. I then just upgraded to > > the 2.6.14-2-amd64-k8-smp kernel and I was good to go. (There is a bug > > in the Opteron CPU that causes issues when running in SMP mode, and the > > work-around was only just included in that kernel.) > > Which bug was that? I know there many errata coming out all-the-time > with the Opteron's compatibility modes (i.e., so the Linux kernel can > treat it like a "front-side bottleneck" processor, instead of its true > NUMA/multi-point calling). See my other e-mail for links. > > Two gotchas. > > 1. When I installed X/KDE it swapped my NICs around (?!?!?). > > Interesting. The PCI bus order is defined by the APIC/ACPI, typically > at POST. You're going to experience the greatest number of busses > you've ever seen -- the sucker has 3 different HyperTransport tunnels, > the nForce Pro 2200 and 2050 (20 PCIe channels _each_) and the AMD8131 > (2 PCI-X channels). Yep - I can't explain it either. > > 2. I haven't managed to get the nVidia video drivers working yet. The > > official nVidia drivers will not load on X startup (although they did > > appear to compile OK, and modprobe doesn't barf on them), and the nv > > driver causes display corruption after a few mins. I'm running the vesa > > driver right now without issue. > > Is the new Debian using udev? If so, that's the issue. The devices > need to be created. To be honest, I'm not sure. I'll check on Monday. > What do you see in /proc/driver/? If the nVidia driver loads > successfully, then you will see it there. Cat those files if they > exist. In that case, it's definitely the lack of udev devices, which > you'll need to create. > > As far as corruption on the "nv" driver, what Xorg version? If it's an > older version, then yeah, that's your problem. Although the older Xorg > release for NV3x (FX) will still drive NV4x (6xxx) series cards, you're > going to have issues. Again, without checking the box again, I'm not sure. It's whatever was with Debian Sid as of Friday... > > As far as (2) goes, I've heard that the nVidia drivers don't yet work > > with kernels > 2.6.12, but I need the 2.6.14-2 kernel for SMP. > > Can anyone confirm/deny/provide pointers for a workaround? > > Interesting. Do you have links to this information? Frankly, I think > nVidia is lax in getting the latest Forceware 75 drivers over to Linux, > probably because they have been so focused on Forceware 80 for Windows. Again, links in my other e-mail. > > Anyhoo, the thing FLIES! > > OpenOffice2 (run from a 32-bit chroot) loads in 3 secs. > > The Gimp loads in under 1 sec. > > I've only carved up one disk so far - I'm considering going to RAID-1 > > at some stage. > > I've tacked a few stats at the end to get the juices going... > > Many, MANY thanks to all who provided input and convinced me to buy > > this kit. > > dev05:/home/adenyer# cat /proc/cpuinfo > > model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 > > cache size : 1024 KB > > The design of the Opteron at 2.0GHz with 1MiB L2 (and 64+64KiB L1) is > like having a 4.0GHz Pentium 4 with 1MiB L2 (and it's measily 16KiB + > 8Kops L1). Sure makes Intel look silly. > > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge > > mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm > > 3dnowext 3dnow > > No SSE3 for programs that Intel has tricked people into such lossy math. > Oh well, it looks like the older Rev. D, but that's not really an issue > in Linux. > > > fdisk /dev/sda > > Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes > > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders > > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Yep, the first "nv_sata" device. > > > fdisk /dev/hdb > ^^^ typo? Yep - my bad, should be /dev/sdb > > Disk /dev/sdb: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes > > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders > > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > top - 16:49:15 up 56 min, 2 users, load average: 0.82, 0.70, 0.49 > > Tasks: 97 total, 2 running, 95 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie > > Cpu(s): 13.5% us, 6.7% sy, 0.0% ni, 69.1% id, 7.8% wa, 1.2% hi, > > 1.7% si > > Mem: 2059056k total, 2047008k used, 12048k free, 4096k buffers > > Swap: 3903752k total, 0k used, 3903752k free, 1786264k cached > > No games above 1GiB, you have full access to the entire 40-bit space of > the EV6 address model. I really do love the machine. Regards, Ozz. From b.j.smith at ieee.org Sun Nov 6 02:22:21 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: Opteron errata / nVidia issues - links and stuff [was Re: [Pc_Support] It's here!] In-Reply-To: <20051105134219.5fcfcfad.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> References: <20051104212233.79ca2979.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> <200511050156.35890.philb@philb.us> <1131209150.5217.32.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> <20051105134219.5fcfcfad.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> Message-ID: <1131261741.5012.9.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 13:42 -0500, Austin Denyer wrote: > The new Intel dual-cores are downright pathetic from the reviews I've > seen so far. Until Intel allows processors to access memory and I/O independently of each other, they will have poor performance. At the same time, because Intel has never allowed such, they are going to find they are 5 years behind AMD when they do next year. > Here's a link to the kernel patch issue. It's long, so I've > reproduced the clip below. > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/ChangeLog-2.6.14-rc2 Yep, found that in the AMD Errata -- Rev. Guide 3.07, page 16 (fall 2003): http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/25759.PDF Coherency issues with a hardware-side hack that AMD came up. Long story short, 32-bit NT kernels use PAE, and that is a major performance hit. So AMD came up with a way to filter out required TLB flushes. I'm sure this gives all sorts of performance bonuses. The downside is ... as always ... AMD CPUs accessing things independently -- whether via the EV6 crossbar switch in Athlon MP, or now the NUMA/HyperTransport multi-point in Opteron 2xx/8xx. So YACI (yet another coherency issue) with AMD's design in MP modes (where CPU states will differ), although they've come a long way from Athlon MP. The workaround is to not use the hardware-side hack. This patch merely disables it to prevent its use. Although AMD is planning a new version of the hack that solves the coherency issue (already implemented in newer Rev. E???), it can be solved with a kernel that doesn't rely on old assumptions of all CPUs having coherent TLBs because they all use the same, shared interconnect (i.e., old Intel). That seems to be what Linus wants, which will only help Linux's scalability on NUMA/multi-point architectures. Coherency issues are always the problem when you don't use a single "memory controller hub" point for all system communications. -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith@ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The best things in life are NOT free - which is why life is easiest if you save all the bills until you can share them with the perfect woman From tim at mcdonough.net Mon Nov 7 09:27:38 2005 From: tim at mcdonough.net (Tim McDonough) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Maxtor 100GB Serial ATA (SATA) drive $99.99 - $65.00 rebate In-Reply-To: <20051104233557.79287.qmail@web34101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051104233557.79287.qmail@web34101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <436F645A.7090401@mcdonough.net> How is Maxtor faring in terms of reliability these days? Based on past problems from a couple years back I have pretty much ignored them the past two years. Tim Bryan J. Smith wrote: > For those looking for a cheap SATA drive and you don't mind > waiting on rebates, this 7200rpm, 8MB buffer, 100GB Maxtor is > nice for $34.99 net: > > http://dealnews.com/deals/Maxtor-100-GB-Serial-ATA-Hard-Drive-for-35-after-rebate/99515.html From b.j.smith at ieee.org Mon Nov 7 09:43:33 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Maxtor 100GB Serial ATA (SATA) drive $99.99 - $65.00 rebate In-Reply-To: <436F645A.7090401@mcdonough.net> Message-ID: <20051107144333.85347.qmail@web34105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Tim McDonough wrote: > How is Maxtor faring in terms of reliability these days? > Based on past problems from a couple years back I have > pretty much ignored them the past two years. Brand name doesn't mean squat, whether you're talking drivers or reliability. This is typically because many vendors are not manufacturers. Individual models are everything. You have to take products on their merits individually. I've had some Maxtor models work most excellent. And I've had some fail within a year. Now Maxtor-Quantum is their own fab. So is Seagate. So is Hitachi. Western Digital is basically Hitachi right now (and IBM before that). Commodity drives are commodity drives. You can be sure that disk failure is going to be the highest of any such commodity drive. Now all 3 manufacturers have added new techniques to bring the vibration rate down 2-3x, increase heat tolerances from 40C to 60C, and some have returned their retail products to 3 or even 5 year warranties. But most OEM products are sold dirt-cheap for cost, and that means the worst of the batch. Hence why many only carry a 1 year warranty. So be wary when you buy anything commodity, unless it's an explicit 24x7 rated model (such as the Seagate NL35 or Western Digital Caviar SE). -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From philb at philb.us Mon Nov 7 11:48:52 2005 From: philb at philb.us (Phil Barnett) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:24 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Maxtor 100GB Serial ATA (SATA) drive $99.99 - $65.00 rebate In-Reply-To: <20051107144333.85347.qmail@web34105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051107144333.85347.qmail@web34105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200511071148.52342.philb@philb.us> On Monday 07 November 2005 09:43 am, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > Commodity drives are commodity drives. You can be sure that > disk failure is going to be the highest of any such commodity > drive. Now all 3 manufacturers have added new techniques to > bring the vibration rate down 2-3x, increase heat tolerances > from 40C to 60C, and some have returned their retail products > to 3 or even 5 year warranties. > > But most OEM products are sold dirt-cheap for cost, and that > means the worst of the batch. Hence why many only carry a 1 > year warranty. So be wary when you buy anything commodity, > unless it's an explicit 24x7 rated model (such as the Seagate > NL35 or Western Digital Caviar SE). Agreed. That's why I put them at least in pairs and mirror them if the data matters at all. -- "In communism, man exploits man. In capitalism, it's the other way around." From b.j.smith at ieee.org Mon Nov 7 11:59:44 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Maxtor 100GB Serial ATA (SATA) drive $99.99 - $65.00 rebate In-Reply-To: <200511071148.52342.philb@philb.us> Message-ID: <20051107165944.11965.qmail@web34108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Phil Barnett wrote: > Agreed. > That's why I put them at least in pairs and mirror them if > the data matters at all. Every desktop system I build today has a mirror. Now if only there was a PCIe version of 3Ware's 2-channel cards (let alone any PCIe version). Mirrored disks on a card that does load-balancing reads can easily saturate the entire 133GBps (32b@33MHz) PCI bus. Until then, I just use software RAID (or even just rsync) on newer mainboards that connect the SATA to a PCIe x1 channel -- such as the nForce4 series of chipsets. -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From jasonb at edseek.com Mon Nov 7 13:03:20 2005 From: jasonb at edseek.com (Jason Boxman) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Maxtor 100GB Serial ATA (SATA) drive $99.99 - $65.00 rebate In-Reply-To: <20051107165944.11965.qmail@web34108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051107165944.11965.qmail@web34108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200511071303.20706.jasonb@edseek.com> On Monday 07 November 2005 11:59, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > Mirrored disks on a card that does load-balancing reads can > easily saturate the entire 133GBps (32b@33MHz) PCI bus. 133GBps? I want one. ;) -- Jason Boxman http://edseek.com/ - Linux and FOSS stuff From b.j.smith at ieee.org Mon Nov 7 14:13:03 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Re: Maxtor 100GB Serial ATA (SATA) drive $99.99 - $65.00 rebate In-Reply-To: <200511071303.20706.jasonb@edseek.com> Message-ID: <20051107191303.99207.qmail@web34104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jason Boxman wrote: > 133GBps? I want one. ;) I'm getting close to 100MiBps sequencial reads using a 8GiB file reads via Bonnie on my wife's Athlon XP2600+ (Socket-462, ViA chipset, 1GiB DDR266 SDRAM) with an old 3Ware Escalade 6200 and two (2) Western Digital 160GB drives. It's clearly saturating her PCI bus. Moving away from the on-board ALC650 to an Audigy2 clearly addressed the sound quality issues she was having because of the reduction in I/O use for audio. -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From b.j.smith at ieee.org Mon Nov 7 16:12:10 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] InFocus 50" DLP (720p) with tuners (w/card), FireWire, optical, etc... for $1, 999 + $5 shipping ... Message-ID: <20051107211211.13457.qmail@web34112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Similar to the last deal in features, but only 50" (11" smaller) so $1,999 ($500) cheaper: http://dealnews.com/deals/In-Focus-Screen-Play-50-md10-50-DLP-Projection-HDTV-for-2-000/99743.html That previous deal was this thread ... http://lists.leap-cf.org/pipermail/pc_support/2005-October/001214.html -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From philb at philb.us Mon Nov 7 20:01:28 2005 From: philb at philb.us (Phil Barnett) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] InFocus 50" DLP (720p) with tuners (w/card), FireWire, optical, etc... for $1, 999 + $5 shipping ... In-Reply-To: <20051107211211.13457.qmail@web34112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051107211211.13457.qmail@web34112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200511072001.28883.philb@philb.us> On Monday 07 November 2005 04:12 pm, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > Similar to the last deal in features, but only 50" (11" > smaller) so $1,999 ($500) cheaper: > http://dealnews.com/deals/In-Focus-Screen-Play-50-md10-50-DLP-Projection-HD >TV-for-2-000/99743.html > > That previous deal was this thread ... > http://lists.leap-cf.org/pipermail/pc_support/2005-October/001214.html Today's Woot.com offer. -- "In communism, man exploits man. In capitalism, it's the other way around." From ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net Mon Nov 7 20:09:48 2005 From: ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net (Austin Denyer (Ozz)) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] WinME Help Message-ID: <20051107200948.74555316.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> Hi Guys. A friend just had me blat his WinME box and re-install from scratch. Unfortunately he just found out he cannot remember his pop3 password from Outlook Express. He does have a full backup of the entire system, but I really don't want to have to restore the whole system for him just to get his password back. Note - if I restore from backup then I have ways of getting the password out, but I'm not sure how to do it without a complete restore. Does anyone know which file stores the password, and if it is possible to restore just this one file so he can get to his e-mail again? Regards, Ozz. From work at sprynet.com Mon Nov 7 23:27:29 2005 From: work at sprynet.com (J.T. Hayden) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] WinME Help In-Reply-To: <20051107200948.74555316.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> Message-ID: <01ba01c5e41c$bb5404b0$650aa8c0@xpmaster> Why does he not just contact his ISP and get it from there? J.T. Hayden -----Original Message----- From: pc_support-bounces@matrixlist.com [mailto:pc_support-bounces@matrixlist.com] On Behalf Of Austin (Ozz) Denyer Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 20.10 To: List - PC-Support Subject: [Pc_Support] WinME Help Hi Guys. A friend just had me blat his WinME box and re-install from scratch. Unfortunately he just found out he cannot remember his pop3 password from Outlook Express. He does have a full backup of the entire system, but I really don't want to have to restore the whole system for him just to get his password back. Note - if I restore from backup then I have ways of getting the password out, but I'm not sure how to do it without a complete restore. Does anyone know which file stores the password, and if it is possible to restore just this one file so he can get to his e-mail again? Regards, Ozz. _______________________________________________ Pc_support mailing list Pc_support@matrixlist.com http://lists.matrixlist.com/mailman/listinfo/pc_support From philb at philb.us Tue Nov 8 00:25:22 2005 From: philb at philb.us (Phil Barnett) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Followup to my request comparing video cards... Message-ID: <200511080025.22642.philb@philb.us> Just what the doctor ordered... http://www.gpureview.com/database.php -- "In communism, man exploits man. In capitalism, it's the other way around." From philb at philb.us Tue Nov 8 08:51:57 2005 From: philb at philb.us (Phil Barnett) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Free Express Editions of Visual Studio 2005, SQL Server, etc. Message-ID: <200511080851.57855.philb@philb.us> Get 'em while they're hot! http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/default.aspx -- "In communism, man exploits man. In capitalism, it's the other way around." From b.j.smith at ieee.org Tue Nov 8 17:46:49 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Thenk ooh fur culling Snell Ku'puters ... Message-ID: <20051108224649.24662.qmail@web34101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Looks like $20/day for Indian support is keeping Wall Street away (among other things)! http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=47177 -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From m9u35g at gmail.com Tue Nov 8 17:59:43 2005 From: m9u35g at gmail.com (Justin M. Keyes) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Thenk ooh fur culling Snell Ku'puters ... In-Reply-To: <20051108224649.24662.qmail@web34101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051108224649.24662.qmail@web34101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46f680d0511081459y3d10793eoad6314c580d7cc46@mail.gmail.com> On 11/8/05, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > Looks like $20/day for Indian support is keeping Wall Street > away (among other things)! > http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=47177 I don't see anything at that link about Indian support... -- Justin Keyes From b.j.smith at ieee.org Tue Nov 8 18:07:07 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Thenk ooh fur culling Snell Ku'puters ... In-Reply-To: <46f680d0511081459y3d10793eoad6314c580d7cc46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20051108230707.86441.qmail@web34108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "Justin M. Keyes" wrote: > I don't see anything at that link about Indian support... They mentioned a couple of companies, including HP no longer outsourcing its SMB support. -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From b.j.smith at ieee.org Tue Nov 8 18:09:54 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Thenk ooh fur culling Snell Ku'puters ... (CORRECTION) In-Reply-To: <20051108230707.86441.qmail@web34108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051108230955.3051.qmail@web34102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "Bryan J. Smith" wrote: > They mentioned a couple of companies, including HP no > longer outsourcing its SMB support. Ack, it wasn't that article. I have to find the original. I incorrectly read what that article said, relating it to another. In a nutshell, many of the Tier-1 OEMs have reversed everything from outsourcing support to continuing to work non-direct. I also think it has a lot to do with lack of AMD offerings. I mean, it's getting to the point where Intel's marketing dollars aren't enough to counter the AMD sales on the shelf and at the server. -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From b.j.smith at ieee.org Tue Nov 8 18:14:08 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Thenk ooh fur culling Snell Ku'puters ... (Okay, real reason!) In-Reply-To: <20051108230955.3051.qmail@web34102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051108231408.74569.qmail@web34106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "Bryan J. Smith" wrote: > I mean, it's getting to the point where Intel's marketing > dollars aren't enough to counter the AMD sales on the shelf > and at the server. Actually, I think this was the real reason! @-p http://www.sun.com/emrkt/rejected/rhymes_magazine_page_LEres.PDF -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From b.j.smith at ieee.org Wed Nov 9 10:44:11 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] OpenFiler canned NAS (with SAN capabilities forthcoming) ... Message-ID: <20051109154411.15361.qmail@web34112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I just heard about this on the CentOS list. I'm extremely impressed with where they are at today with version 1.1 as a _complete_ NAS (based on CentOS 3 -- kernel 2.4, LVM, Samba, NFS v3)! http://www.openfiler.com/docs/roadmap.html - Various authentication/directory (as well as local) support - CIFS/SMB, NFS v3 and HTTP, including ACLs and Quota support - Easy network, host, group, etc... definition/access control Let alone they have some pretty lofty clustering-failover and SAN goals they are working towards for 2.0 (seemingly based on CentOS 4 -- kernel 2.6, LVM2/DM, GFS, Samba, NFS v3/4). Heck, once they get WebDAV in there (especially with DeltaV), that would just be the _killer_app_ (and would plummel SharePoint). The FAQs: http://www.openfiler.com/docs/faq/openfiler-general-faq.html http://www.openfiler.com/docs/faq/openfiler-administration-faq.html And Screenshots ... - Network/host definitions and access control: http://www.openfiler.com/screenshots/shots/general_local_networks_1.png http://www.openfiler.com/screenshots/shots/shares_edit_share_3.png - Select directory service(s): http://www.openfiler.com/screenshots/shots/accounts_authentication_2.png - Group and host access control: http://www.openfiler.com/screenshots/shots/shares_edit_share_5.png - Quotas: http://www.openfiler.com/screenshots/shots/quota_group_quota_2.png -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net Wed Nov 9 18:06:38 2005 From: ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net (Austin Denyer (Ozz)) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] WinME Help In-Reply-To: <01ba01c5e41c$bb5404b0$650aa8c0@xpmaster> References: <20051107200948.74555316.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> <01ba01c5e41c$bb5404b0$650aa8c0@xpmaster> Message-ID: <20051109180638.281cef92.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 23:27:29 -0500, "J.T. Hayden" wrote: > > Why does he not just contact his ISP and get it from there? His ISP's website was seriously screwed up and gave 500 errors every time he tried to recover his password. He eventually bit the bullet and deleted/recreated his e-mail account. It's not a high-volume account so he's unlikely to have lost anything of importance. The ironic thing was, about 10 mins after blatting the account he remembered the old password. Go figure... Regards, Ozz. From b.j.smith at ieee.org Thu Nov 10 00:46:47 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] GeForce 6800GS PCIe 256MB DDR3 cards around $200 Message-ID: <20051110054648.76272.qmail@web34107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just FYI, the GeForce 6800GS is now becoming available. It's basically a native PCIe version of the original 6800, fabbed by TSMC at 0.11um instead of the original 0.13um. They run only $200, typically with HDTV-out. Definitely a nice option between a GeForce 6600GT with only 128MB DDR3 (unless you go with the lower GeForce 6600 256MB DDR, although reports are that XFX is using DDR2 for a performance boost), and the newer GeForce 7800GT 256MB DDR3 which start at $325. Related AnandTech review: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2593 -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From pberry2 at cfl.rr.com Thu Nov 10 11:55:17 2005 From: pberry2 at cfl.rr.com (Linux User patrick) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Sony DRM exploit explained, VNUnet, or WHY I do NOT buy SONY cd's... Message-ID: <43737B75.3010601@cfl.rr.com> Virus writers exploit Sony DRM Sony doomsday scenario becomes reality Iain Thomson and Tom Sanders, vnunet.com 10 Nov 2005 Virus writers have already started to exploit Sony 's controversial digital rights management software, which uses a rootkit to hide the code and ensure that the CDs are not copied. A new Trojan, Troj/Stinx-E , has been mass-mailed to UK email addresses. The worm is a variant of what McAfee referred to as the Brepibot virus that was first discovered on April this year. BitDefender calls the new worm Backdoor IRC Snyd A and F-Secure Breplibot.B . The new version has been altered to exploit a feature in the XCP digital rights management technology for Windows systems that comes bundled with several audio CDs from the Sony BMG record label. The software will automatically install the first time a user tries to play an infected audio CD on his computer's CD Rom drive. In addition to digital rights manament technology, CD also installs a so-called root kit that hides files from the user and the system, including anti-virus software. Security experts have argued that it is extremely poorly engineered and that worm authors can exploit it by simply placing the characters "$sys$" in front of a file name. The new variant of the Stinx trojan tries to do exactly that. "Sony started off with the right intentions but did not recognise the implications of what it was doing," said Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant at Sophos . "We've had companies calling up all day asking what to do with this. We feel sorry for the musicians; if you look on Amazon right now reviewers are telling people not to buy the album, not because of the music but because of the copy protection. See the Full Story: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2145874/virus-writers-exploit-sony-drm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.matrixlist.com/pipermail/pc_support/attachments/20051110/454d4773/attachment.html From ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net Fri Nov 11 07:42:27 2005 From: ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net (ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Sony DRM exploit explained, VNUnet, or WHY I do NOT buy SONY cd's... In-Reply-To: <43737B75.3010601@cfl.rr.com> References: <43737B75.3010601@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <50612.69.176.47.130.1131712947.squirrel@www.ozz.is-a-geek.net> > > Virus writers exploit Sony DRM > > > Sony doomsday scenario becomes reality > > Iain Thomson and Tom Sanders, vnunet.com 10 Nov > 2005 > Virus writers have already started to exploit Sony > 's controversial digital rights management > software, which uses a rootkit to hide > the code and ensure that the CDs are not copied. > > A new Trojan, Troj/Stinx-E > , has been > mass-mailed to UK email addresses. The worm is a variant of what McAfee > referred to as the Brepibot > > virus that was first discovered on April this year. BitDefender calls > the new worm Backdoor IRC Snyd A > > and F-Secure Breplibot.B > . The funny thing is, the new trojan mass-emails to UK e-mail addresses. The Sony CDs sold in the UK do not contain the rootkit, as they violate British law. The trojan writer didn't do their homework... Regards, Ozz. From philb at philb.us Sun Nov 13 10:57:01 2005 From: philb at philb.us (Phil Barnett) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Question about LCD speed. Message-ID: <200511131057.01964.philb@philb.us> How is 12ms for games like bzflag? -- "In communism, man exploits man. In capitalism, it's the other way around." From b.j.smith at ieee.org Sun Nov 13 23:12:21 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Question about LCD speed. In-Reply-To: <200511131057.01964.philb@philb.us> References: <200511131057.01964.philb@philb.us> Message-ID: <1131941541.5004.13.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> On Sun, 2005-11-13 at 10:57 -0500, Phil Barnett wrote: > How is 12ms for games like bzflag? 83Hz vertical refresh rate -- typically higher than the 60-75Hz you're video framebuffer refresh input is. ;-> -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith@ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The best things in life are NOT free - which is why life is easiest if you save all the bills until you can share them with the perfect woman From philb at philb.us Mon Nov 14 00:43:47 2005 From: philb at philb.us (Phil Barnett) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Question about LCD speed. In-Reply-To: <1131941541.5004.13.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> References: <200511131057.01964.philb@philb.us> <1131941541.5004.13.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> Message-ID: <200511140043.47746.philb@philb.us> On Sunday 13 November 2005 11:12 pm, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2005-11-13 at 10:57 -0500, Phil Barnett wrote: > > How is 12ms for games like bzflag? > > 83Hz vertical refresh rate -- typically higher than the 60-75Hz you're > video framebuffer refresh input is. ;-> There's quite a few 19" 12ms around $250 with no rebates. Looks like a great christmas is a comin'. -- "In communism, man exploits man. In capitalism, it's the other way around." From b.j.smith at ieee.org Mon Nov 14 01:36:11 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Question about LCD speed. In-Reply-To: <200511140043.47746.philb@philb.us> References: <200511131057.01964.philb@philb.us> <1131941541.5004.13.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> <200511140043.47746.philb@philb.us> Message-ID: <1131950171.5004.23.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 00:43 -0500, Phil Barnett wrote: > There's quite a few 19" 12ms around $250 with no rebates. Yepper. 16ms is minimum at 60Hz. 12ms makes it perfect. 8ms leaves no doubt (and would take 120Hz, if the monitors took such a signal -- might be nice for 3D shutter glasses, but I haven't seen one capable yet). The only kicker is the 1280x1024 resolution. Few full-screen titles run well at 1280x1024, some force 1280x960, and there's no "perfect divisor" to any other resolution -- and 640x480 is a tad small. 1600x1200 (or even 1920x1200 16:10, which is 1600x1200 at 4:3) is nicer, because it's a perfect 2x over 800x600. Of course, it'll cost you well over $500 for them, and rarely do even Dell's 20.1" 4:3 break $500 (only the 20.1" widescreen which does 1680x1050). At over $500, you might as well splurge to $779 (when on-sale) for the Dell 24" with all sorts of features, or get a 30" something LCD with a 1366x768 resolution (as long as it has a 16ms refresh). > Looks like a great christmas is a comin'. Yepper. Although I'm going to add my 2nd Windows system to my house then, an Xbox 360. -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith@ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The best things in life are NOT free - which is why life is easiest if you save all the bills until you can share them with the perfect woman From b.j.smith at ieee.org Mon Nov 14 01:37:43 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Question about LCD speed. In-Reply-To: <1131950171.5004.23.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> References: <200511131057.01964.philb@philb.us> <1131941541.5004.13.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> <200511140043.47746.philb@philb.us> <1131950171.5004.23.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> Message-ID: <1131950264.5004.25.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 00:36 -0600, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > Yepper. 16ms is minimum at 60Hz. 12ms makes it perfect. 8ms leaves no > doubt (and would take 120Hz, if the monitors took such a signal -- might > be nice for 3D shutter glasses, but I haven't seen one capable yet). > The only kicker is the 1280x1024 resolution. > Few full-screen titles run well at 1280x1024, some force 1280x960, and > there's no "perfect divisor" to any other resolution -- and 640x480 is a > tad small. But I'm happy with my dual 19" monitors (primary 8ms, secondary 25ms). I can deal with 1280x1024 -- it's not killer that I have 1600x1200. That's a much better deal for $500 IMHO. -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith@ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The best things in life are NOT free - which is why life is easiest if you save all the bills until you can share them with the perfect woman From b.j.smith at ieee.org Mon Nov 14 04:15:03 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] nVidia G72 (7200), G73 (7600) due in February, March ... Message-ID: <20051114091503.6316.qmail@web34104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> According to AnandTech, the G72 (GeForce 7200) is due in February 2006 and the G73 (GeForce 7600) is due March 2006. The final product specifications are not yet known, but it has been rumored that they will be pin (and, therefore, PCB) compatible with the existing NV43-V/NV44 (6200/6200TC) and NV43 (6600). 6600 cards typically have 6-pin (2x3) SSI WS aka "PCIe" connector. 6200 cards do not. Expect similar power requirements for the 7600 and 7200, respectively. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2595 -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From jasonb at edseek.com Tue Nov 15 11:12:18 2005 From: jasonb at edseek.com (Jason Boxman) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] GeForce 6800GS PCIe 256MB DDR3 cards around $200 In-Reply-To: <20051110054648.76272.qmail@web34107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051110054648.76272.qmail@web34107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200511151112.18720.jasonb@edseek.com> On Thursday 10 November 2005 00:46, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > Definitely a nice option between a GeForce 6600GT with only > 128MB DDR3 (unless you go with the lower GeForce 6600 256MB > DDR, although reports are that XFX is using DDR2 for a > performance boost), and the newer GeForce 7800GT 256MB DDR3 > which start at $325. fwiw http://edseek.com/archives/2005/08/16/xfx-video-cards-6600gt-dont-waste-your-money/ -- Jason Boxman http://edseek.com/ - Linux and FOSS stuff From jasonb at edseek.com Tue Nov 15 11:16:28 2005 From: jasonb at edseek.com (Jason Boxman) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Question about LCD speed. In-Reply-To: <1131950264.5004.25.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> References: <200511131057.01964.philb@philb.us> <1131950171.5004.23.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> <1131950264.5004.25.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> Message-ID: <200511151116.29007.jasonb@edseek.com> On Monday 14 November 2005 01:37, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > But I'm happy with my dual 19" monitors (primary 8ms, secondary 25ms). > I can deal with 1280x1024 -- it's not killer that I have 1600x1200. > > That's a much better deal for $500 IMHO. Yes. Once you've gone dual anything, any resolution, you can't go back. You'll never be productive again. ;) -- Jason Boxman http://edseek.com/ - Linux and FOSS stuff From b.j.smith at ieee.org Tue Nov 15 12:25:22 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Does anyone locally sell MicroDrives with either 44-pin ATA or Compact Flash interfaces? Message-ID: <20051115172522.74540.qmail@web34114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm having a heck of a time getting XP Embedded (XPE) built for my system (which will be Compact Flash) -- I just can't get the devices figured out so I won't get a STOP: 0x0000007B error (even using a hard drive). Eventually I'll get it, but I really need something immediate until I do. The system runs 2000/XP no problem -- since the installer takes care of setting up the devices and registry (yes, I know, I've run TAP in a full boot to no avail with the resulting 110+ device .pmq file for XPE). So I'm thinking of using a MicroDrive temporarily, since it has much higher tolerances than any other type of drive -- especially some of the new models that park the heads if they detect a drop of a foot or so (and can take 2000G). So, anyone know of a local reseller who has MicroDrives with either a 44-pin ATA or Compact Flash interface? The latter would be idea (since it plugs right into the board's ATA-to-CF converter, no cabling/mounting), but ATA would be fine as well. All I've seen are USB-type. -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From whittake at sbaflorida.com Tue Nov 15 15:10:36 2005 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Kernel-2.6.8-2 image In-Reply-To: <20051115172522.74540.qmail@web34114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051115172522.74540.qmail@web34114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200511151510.36504.whittake@sbaflorida.com> Some time ago my wife lost her contact with the internet on a machine approximately 100 feet from my cable router. I know too far but just on the edge, wherein the problem. From whittake at sbaflorida.com Tue Nov 15 15:29:22 2005 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] USB Memory Stick In-Reply-To: <20051115172522.74540.qmail@web34114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051115172522.74540.qmail@web34114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200511151529.23100.whittake@sbaflorida.com> I need to download a Debian kernel-2.6.8-2 image onto a memory stick in my Debian machine. I have downloaded the image and it is sitting on my desktop, the problem is I cannot call up the usb port with the memory stick attached. My dmesg indicates it is seen by the machine. It reports hub 1-0:1.0: usb hub found hub 2-0:1.0: usb hub found usb 2-1 full speed device using address 2 usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage #lsusb reports: us 002 Device 002: ID 0781:5150 SanDisk Corp. SDCZ2 Cruzer Mini Flash Drive (thin) Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Even if I find the memory stick I still am not sure I am on the right track. My wife's machine has Mandrake with a kernel 2.4 installed. She has lost contact with our cable modem because her machine is approximately 100 feet away. The machine CAN see the cable modem using Knoppix26. If there is some method that I can use to upgrade her Mandrake to a 2.6 kernel via Knoppix I will use it or I will try the memory stick route if I can find it. I do not know HowTo either way. Any assistance would surely help, and keep my marriage healthy :) Homer Whittaker From pberry2 at cfl.rr.com Tue Nov 15 09:31:38 2005 From: pberry2 at cfl.rr.com (Linux User patrick) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Kernel-2.6.8-2 image In-Reply-To: <200511151510.36504.whittake@sbaflorida.com> References: <20051115172522.74540.qmail@web34114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200511151510.36504.whittake@sbaflorida.com> Message-ID: <4379F14A.9090504@cfl.rr.com> Homer Whittaker wrote: >Some time ago my wife lost her contact with the internet on a >machine approximately 100 feet from my cable router. I know too >far but just on the edge, wherein the problem. >_______________________________________________ >Pc_support mailing list >Pc_support@matrixlist.com >http://lists.matrixlist.com/mailman/listinfo/pc_support > > > So, simply go wifi! less than $100. Or, run a new length of Cat5 wire! Less than $40. _________________ There are NO 'new' questions! Did you first search: http://scroogle.com http://kartoo.com http://lugww.counter.li.org http://yolinux.com http://linuxiso.org http://distrowatch.com http://www.linuxquestions.org http://livecdlist.com From whittake at sbaflorida.com Tue Nov 15 16:46:37 2005 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Kernel-2.6.8-2 image In-Reply-To: <4379F14A.9090504@cfl.rr.com> References: <20051115172522.74540.qmail@web34114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200511151510.36504.whittake@sbaflorida.com> <4379F14A.9090504@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <200511151646.37365.whittake@sbaflorida.com> On Tuesday 15 November 2005 09:31, Linux User patrick wrote: > Homer Whittaker wrote: > >Some time ago my wife lost her contact with the internet on a > >machine approximately 100 feet from my cable router. I know > > too far but just on the edge, wherein the problem. > >_______________________________________________ > >Pc_support mailing list > >Pc_support@matrixlist.com > >http://lists.matrixlist.com/mailman/listinfo/pc_support > > So, simply go wifi! less than $100. Or, run a new length of > Cat5 wire! Less than $40. Nope, for several reasons. Both have been examined and rejected. Actually it may be easier just reinstalling a Debian with 2.6. You may not have noted, the machine does work with a 2.6 kernel! Homer > > > _________________ > There are NO 'new' questions! Did you first search: > http://scroogle.com http://kartoo.com > http://lugww.counter.li.org http://yolinux.com > http://linuxiso.org http://distrowatch.com > http://www.linuxquestions.org > http://livecdlist.com > > _______________________________________________ > Pc_support mailing list > Pc_support@matrixlist.com > http://lists.matrixlist.com/mailman/listinfo/pc_support From b.j.smith at ieee.org Wed Nov 16 06:41:02 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] GeForce 6800GS PCIe 256MB DDR3 cards around $200 In-Reply-To: <200511151112.18720.jasonb@edseek.com> References: <20051110054648.76272.qmail@web34107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200511151112.18720.jasonb@edseek.com> Message-ID: <1132141262.5014.5.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 11:12 -0500, Jason Boxman wrote: > fwiw > http://edseek.com/archives/2005/08/16/xfx-video-cards-6600gt-dont-waste-your-money/ Yep, I remember your experiences, and that they are not alone. One has to wonder if these models are the DDR2 models? -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith@ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- For everything else *COUGH*commercials*COUGH* there's "ManningCard" From whittake at sbaflorida.com Tue Nov 15 17:06:37 2005 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Smmmmearing on several applications Message-ID: <200511151706.37412.whittake@sbaflorida.com> Apparently I am loosing one of my cards or the mother board. While using several different browsers, Firefox and also Mozilla the page I am working with starts to smear and seems to have numerous background verbage, pictures, and just straight smearing. The latest time was when I was writing a letter in OpenOffice and it smeared on me to the point that I could not finish (lost) the letter I was writing. Any thoughts as to what it might be? Homer Whittaker From jasonb at edseek.com Wed Nov 16 12:31:46 2005 From: jasonb at edseek.com (Jason Boxman) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] GeForce 6800GS PCIe 256MB DDR3 cards around $200 In-Reply-To: <1132141262.5014.5.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> References: <20051110054648.76272.qmail@web34107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200511151112.18720.jasonb@edseek.com> <1132141262.5014.5.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> Message-ID: <200511161231.46744.jasonb@edseek.com> On Wednesday 16 November 2005 06:41, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 11:12 -0500, Jason Boxman wrote: > > fwiw > > http://edseek.com/archives/2005/08/16/xfx-video-cards-6600gt-dont-waste-y > >our-money/ > > Yep, I remember your experiences, and that they are not alone. > One has to wonder if these models are the DDR2 models? It was DDR3 I believe. -- Jason Boxman http://edseek.com/ - Linux and FOSS stuff From b.j.smith at ieee.org Wed Nov 16 20:51:54 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] GeForce 6800GS PCIe 256MB DDR3 cards around $200 In-Reply-To: <200511161231.46744.jasonb@edseek.com> Message-ID: <20051117015154.71962.qmail@web34113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jason Boxman wrote: > It was DDR3 I believe. DDR3 is on the "GT" models. I just remembered, you had a 6600GT. I was talking about the 6600 (non-GT). They normally use DDR. But XFX is shipping DDR2 on some of them. I just crossed concepts after you responded. -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From b.j.smith at ieee.org Thu Nov 17 09:37:31 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Smmmmearing on several applications In-Reply-To: <200511151706.37412.whittake@sbaflorida.com> References: <200511151706.37412.whittake@sbaflorida.com> Message-ID: <1132238251.5042.30.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 17:06 -0500, Homer Whittaker wrote: > Apparently I am loosing one of my cards or the mother board. > While using several different browsers, Firefox and also Mozilla > the page I am working with starts to smear and seems to have > numerous background verbage, pictures, and just straight > smearing. The latest time was when I was writing a letter in > OpenOffice and it smeared on me to the point that I could not > finish (lost) the letter I was writing. > Any thoughts as to what it might be? Sounds like Homie hit a couple porno sites with the Javascriptie on. ;-> Seriously now, have you considered you might have some spyware? Is this a Windows system or Linux? -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith@ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- For everything else *COUGH*commercials*COUGH* there's "ManningCard" From whittake at sbaflorida.com Thu Nov 17 13:38:57 2005 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:25 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Smmmmearing on several applications In-Reply-To: <1132238251.5042.30.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> References: <200511151706.37412.whittake@sbaflorida.com> <1132238251.5042.30.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> Message-ID: <437CCE41.1010903@sbaflorida.com> Bryan J. Smith wrote: >On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 17:06 -0500, Homer Whittaker wrote: > > >>Apparently I am loosing one of my cards or the mother board. >>While using several different browsers, Firefox and also Mozilla >>the page I am working with starts to smear and seems to have >>numerous background verbage, pictures, and just straight >>smearing. The latest time was when I was writing a letter in >>OpenOffice and it smeared on me to the point that I could not >>finish (lost) the letter I was writing. >>Any thoughts as to what it might be? >> >> > >Sounds like Homie hit a couple porno sites with the Javascriptie on. >;-> > >Seriously now, have you considered you might have some spyware? >Is this a Windows system or Linux? > > I have Debian-2.4 kernel and Debian-2.6 kernel on this Debian only box. It smears on just about everything except Thunderbird Mail Client. Especially bad on the Mozilla browser. If it is spyware how do I get rid of it? Homer > > > From whittake at sbaflorida.com Thu Nov 17 16:03:18 2005 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:26 2006 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Pc_Support] Smmmmearing on several applications] Message-ID: <437CF016.2040608@sbaflorida.com> I have searched extensively for a Linux program to find and eliminate spyware without too much luck. All to almost all are Windows based. I did find one, Aluria that sounded like it would do the job but it ran and ran and ran without much response. Shortly after running it a window came up and said that I did have a virus but did not provide any clue as to how to get rid of it. Anyone know of a virus remover for Linux? Assuming that the Aluria program knows of where it speaks? If no joy with virus remover, what is my next step? It seems to me that if I backup the currently installed "stuff" I would only be moving the virus to the backup and from there to a newly installed Debian. Any and all suggestions would be welcome. Homer -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Pc_Support] Smmmmearing on several applications Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:38:57 -0500 From: Homer Whittaker Reply-To: This is the PC Support list. To: This is the PC Support list. References: <200511151706.37412.whittake@sbaflorida.com> <1132238251.5042.30.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> Bryan J. Smith wrote: >On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 17:06 -0500, Homer Whittaker wrote: > > >>Apparently I am loosing one of my cards or the mother board. >>While using several different browsers, Firefox and also Mozilla >>the page I am working with starts to smear and seems to have >>numerous background verbage, pictures, and just straight >>smearing. The latest time was when I was writing a letter in >>OpenOffice and it smeared on me to the point that I could not >>finish (lost) the letter I was writing. >>Any thoughts as to what it might be? >> >> > >Sounds like Homie hit a couple porno sites with the Javascriptie on. >;-> > >Seriously now, have you considered you might have some spyware? >Is this a Windows system or Linux? > > I have Debian-2.4 kernel and Debian-2.6 kernel on this Debian only box. It smears on just about everything except Thunderbird Mail Client. Especially bad on the Mozilla browser. If it is spyware how do I get rid of it? Homer > > > _______________________________________________ Pc_support mailing list Pc_support@matrixlist.com http://lists.matrixlist.com/mailman/listinfo/pc_support From pberry2 at cfl.rr.com Thu Nov 17 10:04:16 2005 From: pberry2 at cfl.rr.com (Linux User patrick) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:26 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Smmmmearing on several applications In-Reply-To: <437CCE41.1010903@sbaflorida.com> References: <200511151706.37412.whittake@sbaflorida.com> <1132238251.5042.30.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> <437CCE41.1010903@sbaflorida.com> Message-ID: <437C9BF0.7020500@cfl.rr.com> Homer Whittaker wrote: > Bryan J. Smith wrote: > >> On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 17:06 -0500, Homer Whittaker wrote: >> >> >>> Apparently I am loosing one of my cards or the mother board. While >>> using several different browsers, Firefox and also Mozilla the page >>> I am working with starts to smear and seems to have numerous >>> background verbage, pictures, and just straight smearing. The >>> latest time was when I was writing a letter in OpenOffice and it >>> smeared on me to the point that I could not finish (lost) the letter >>> I was writing. >>> Any thoughts as to what it might be? >>> >> >> >> Sounds like Homie hit a couple porno sites with the Javascriptie on. >> ;-> >> >> Seriously now, have you considered you might have some spyware? >> Is this a Windows system or Linux? >> >> > I have Debian-2.4 kernel and Debian-2.6 kernel on this Debian only > box. It smears on just about everything except Thunderbird Mail > Client. Especially bad on the Mozilla browser. > > If it is spyware how do I get rid of it? > Homer > >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pc_support mailing list > Pc_support@matrixlist.com > http://lists.matrixlist.com/mailman/listinfo/pc_support > It is probably NOT spyware... Your video RAM is failing. Change out the video card. -- __________________ There are NO 'new' questions! Did you first search: http://scroogle.com http://kartoo.com http://lugww.counter.li.org http://yolinux.com http://linuxiso.org http://distrowatch.com http://www.linuxquestions.org http://livecdlist.com From b.j.smith at ieee.org Thu Nov 17 17:17:15 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:26 2006 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Pc_Support] Smmmmearing on several applications] In-Reply-To: <437CF016.2040608@sbaflorida.com> Message-ID: <20051117221715.75002.qmail@web34108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Homer Whittaker wrote: > I have searched extensively for a Linux program to find and > eliminate spyware without too much luck. All to almost all > are Windows based. I did find one, Aluria that sounded like > it would do the job but it ran and ran and ran without much > response. It might be something that only affects Firefox after you run it. Javascript exploits are typical in that fashion -- yes, even on Linux. What version of Firefox (or Mozilla) are you running? (use Help -> About) BTW, did you upgrade your kernel recently? If so, what video driver are you using for what card? Is it still a Matrox (I'm a bit ignorant on how their drivers work)? -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From philb at philb.us Thu Nov 17 17:42:53 2005 From: philb at philb.us (Phil Barnett) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:26 2006 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Pc_Support] Smmmmearing on several applications] In-Reply-To: <437CF016.2040608@sbaflorida.com> References: <437CF016.2040608@sbaflorida.com> Message-ID: <200511171742.53490.philb@philb.us> On Thursday 17 November 2005 04:03 pm, Homer Whittaker wrote: > I have searched extensively for a Linux program to find and eliminate > spyware without too much luck. All to almost all are Windows based. I > did find one, Aluria that sounded like it would do the job but it ran > and ran and ran without much response. > Shortly after running it a window came up and said that I did have a > virus but did not provide any clue as to how to get rid of it. > > Anyone know of a virus remover for Linux? Assuming that the Aluria > program knows of where it speaks? > > If no joy with virus remover, what is my next step? It seems to me that > if I backup the currently installed "stuff" I would only be moving the > virus to the backup and from there to a newly installed Debian. Any and > all suggestions would be welcome. First thing... Download chkrootkit and run it. -- "In communism, man exploits man. In capitalism, it's the other way around." From ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net Thu Nov 17 20:19:03 2005 From: ozz at ozz.is-a-geek.net (Austin Denyer (Ozz)) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:26 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] RAID Message-ID: <20051117201903.369bb946.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> Scenario: Tyan K8WE mainboard with built-in nVidia SATAII RAID controller. RAID not configured in BIOS. 2 identical SATAII hard drives, one partitioned and formatted for Linux (Debian AMD64, 2.6.14-2 kernel) the other drive blank. Is it possible to set up RAID-1 mirroring on this (either using the on-board controller or software) without blatting and re-installing the o/s? If so, how would I go about it? Any pointers to a good how-to would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Ozz. From b.j.smith at ieee.org Thu Nov 17 20:25:07 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:26 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] RAID In-Reply-To: <20051117201903.369bb946.ozz@ozz.is-a-geek.net> Message-ID: <20051118012507.92679.qmail@web34106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "Austin (Ozz) Denyer" wrote: > Scenario: > Tyan K8WE mainboard with built-in nVidia SATAII RAID > controller. FRAID. > RAID not configured in BIOS. Not that it matters, once the 32/64-bit OS boots, it's 100% in software. The 32/64-bit OS sees the raw ATA channels at all times. > 2 identical SATAII hard drives, one partitioned and > formatted for Linux (Debian AMD64, 2.6.14-2 kernel) the other > drive blank. > Is it possible to set up RAID-1 mirroring on this (either > using the on-board controller No RAID controller, 100% FRAID (software). > or software) without blatting and re-installing the o/s? Yes and no. Yes, it might be possible to use Linux's MultiDisk (MD) support using the existing filesystems. I've never done so. Another option might be to see if the LVM2/Device-Mapper now has nVidia 4xx series SATA FRAID support. I.e., the current LVM2/Device-Mapper work can read some FRAID mirror/stripe organization and support. So if the BIOS supports mirroring an existing disk, the experimental LVM2/DM work might be able to read it. But I wouldn't trust the current LVM2/DM work. > If so, how would I go about it? Any pointers to a good > how-to would be greatly appreciated. Don't have one for 'ya. I've been using rsync on my 2 SATA drives on my nForce4 mainboard. -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From whittake at sbaflorida.com Thu Nov 17 20:50:46 2005 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:26 2006 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Pc_Support] Smmmmearing on several applications] In-Reply-To: <200511171742.53490.philb@philb.us> References: <437CF016.2040608@sbaflorida.com> <200511171742.53490.philb@philb.us> Message-ID: <437D3376.5010108@sbaflorida.com> Phil Barnett wrote: > On Thursday 17 November 2005 04:03 pm, Homer Whittaker wrote: > >>I have searched extensively for a Linux program to find and eliminate >>spyware without too much luck. All to almost all are Windows based. I >>did find one, Aluria that sounded like it would do the job but it ran >>and ran and ran without much response. >>Shortly after running it a window came up and said that I did have a >>virus but did not provide any clue as to how to get rid of it. >> >>Anyone know of a virus remover for Linux? Assuming that the Aluria >>program knows of where it speaks? >> >>If no joy with virus remover, what is my next step? It seems to me that >> if I backup the currently installed "stuff" I would only be moving the >>virus to the backup and from there to a newly installed Debian. Any and >>all suggestions would be welcome. > > > First thing... > > Download chkrootkit and run it. Wow! Nice. And it reported "nothing found" and "not infected" all the way. Nice to know, and I did put it in cron. The Checking 'Z2' ... user root deleted or never loged from lastlog! Thanks Phil. For all on LEAP the following is the results from chkrootkit. Nice to know. sbaflorida:/home/whittake# chkrootkit ROOTDIR is `/' Checking `amd'... not infected Checking `basename'... not infected Checking `biff'... not found Checking `chfn'... not infected Checking `chsh'... not infected Checking `cron'... not infected Checking `date'... not infected Checking `du'... not infected Checking `dirname'... not infected Checking `echo'... not infected Checking `egrep'... not infected Checking `env'... not infected Checking `find'... not infected Checking `fingerd'... not infected Checking `gpm'... not found Checking `grep'... not infected Checking `hdparm'... not found Checking `su'... not infected Checking `ifconfig'... not infected Checking `inetd'... not infected Checking `inetdconf'... not infected Checking `identd'... not found Checking `init'... not infected Checking `killall'... not infected Checking `ldsopreload'... not infected Checking `login'... not infected Checking `ls'... not infected Checking `lsof'... not infected Checking `mail'... not infected Checking `mingetty'... not found Checking `netstat'... not infected Checking `named'... not infected Checking `passwd'... not infected Checking `pidof'... not infected Checking `pop2'... not found Checking `pop3'... not found Checking `ps'... not infected Checking `pstree'... not infected Checking `rpcinfo'... not infected Checking `rlogind'... not found Checking `rshd'... not found Checking `slogin'... not infected Checking `sendmail'... not infected Checking `sshd'... not infected Checking `syslogd'... not infected Checking `tar'... not infected Checking `tcpd'... not infected Checking `tcpdump'... not infected Checking `top'... not infected Checking `telnetd'... not found Checking `timed'... not found Checking `traceroute'... not infected Checking `vdir'... not infected Checking `w'... not infected Checking `write'... not infected Checking `aliens'... no suspect files Searching for sniffer's logs, it may take a while... nothing found Searching for HiDrootkit's default dir... nothing found Searching for t0rn's default files and dirs... nothing found Searching for t0rn's v8 defaults... nothing found Searching for Lion Worm default files and dirs... nothing found Searching for RSHA's default files and dir... nothing found Searching for RH-Sharpe's default files... nothing found Searching for Ambient's rootkit (ark) default files and dirs... nothing found Searching for suspicious files and dirs, it may take a while... /usr/lib/GNUstep/System/.GNUsteprc Searching for LPD Worm files and dirs... nothing found Searching for Ramen Worm files and dirs... nothing found Searching for Maniac files and dirs... nothing found Searching for RK17 files and dirs... nothing found Searching for Ducoci rootkit... nothing found Searching for Adore Worm... nothing found Searching for ShitC Worm... nothing found Searching for Omega Worm... nothing found Searching for Sadmind/IIS Worm... nothing found Searching for MonKit... nothing found Searching for Showtee... nothing found Searching for OpticKit... nothing found Searching for T.R.K... nothing found Searching for Mithra... nothing found Searching for OBSD rk v1... nothing found Searching for LOC rootkit... nothing found Searching for Romanian rootkit... nothing found Searching for Suckit rootkit... nothing found Searching for Volc rootkit... nothing found Searching for Gold2 rootkit... nothing found Searching for TC2 Worm default files and dirs... nothing found Searching for Anonoying rootkit default files and dirs... nothing found Searching for ZK rootkit default files and dirs... nothing found Searching for ShKit rootkit default files and dirs... nothing found Searching for AjaKit rootkit default files and dirs... nothing found Searching for zaRwT rootkit default files and dirs... nothing found Searching for Madalin rootkit default files... nothing found Searching for anomalies in shell history files... nothing found Checking `asp'... not infected Checking `bindshell'... not infected Checking `lkm'... nothing detected Checking `rexedcs'... not found Checking `sniffer'... lo: PACKET SNIFFER(/usr/sbin/pmacctd[3024]) eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[2550], /usr/sbin/arpwatch[3140]) Checking `w55808'... not infected Checking `wted'... nothing deleted Checking `scalper'... not infected Checking `slapper'... not infected Checking `z2'... user root deleted or never loged from lastlog! sbaflorida:/home/whittake# > From whittake at sbaflorida.com Thu Nov 17 20:53:53 2005 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:26 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] Smmmmearing on several applications In-Reply-To: <437C9BF0.7020500@cfl.rr.com> References: <200511151706.37412.whittake@sbaflorida.com> <1132238251.5042.30.camel@bert64.oviedo.smithconcepts.com> <437CCE41.1010903@sbaflorida.com> <437C9BF0.7020500@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <437D3431.9050806@sbaflorida.com> If and when the problem returns I will change out the card. Homer Linux User patrick wrote: > Homer Whittaker wrote: > >> Bryan J. Smith wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 17:06 -0500, Homer Whittaker wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Apparently I am loosing one of my cards or the mother board. While >>>> using several different browsers, Firefox and also Mozilla the page >>>> I am working with starts to smear and seems to have numerous >>>> background verbage, pictures, and just straight smearing. The >>>> latest time was when I was writing a letter in OpenOffice and it >>>> smeared on me to the point that I could not finish (lost) the letter >>>> I was writing. >>>> Any thoughts as to what it might be? >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sounds like Homie hit a couple porno sites with the Javascriptie on. >>> ;-> >>> >>> Seriously now, have you considered you might have some spyware? >>> Is this a Windows system or Linux? >>> >>> >> I have Debian-2.4 kernel and Debian-2.6 kernel on this Debian only >> box. It smears on just about everything except Thunderbird Mail >> Client. Especially bad on the Mozilla browser. >> >> If it is spyware how do I get rid of it? >> Homer >> >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pc_support mailing list >> Pc_support@matrixlist.com >> http://lists.matrixlist.com/mailman/listinfo/pc_support >> > It is probably NOT spyware... Your video RAM is failing. Change out > the video card. > From brianashelist at yahoo.com Fri Nov 18 11:34:32 2005 From: brianashelist at yahoo.com (Brian Ashe) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:26 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] server for sale Message-ID: <20051118163432.22635.qmail@web34011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all, This isn't a server I'm selling but one I found locally. It sounds great and I *wish* I had a reason to buy it but I don't so I'll be good for once and not get it. :-) It's been listed for a while and was recently relisted at a lower price and I figured if anyone could use it, it'd be someone on this list. http://orlando.craigslist.org/sys/111920906.html DL580 Compaq Rackmount Server - $175 Dual Pentium 3/700 MHZ, 1 GB RAM, (4) 9 GB SCSI hard disks, Dual ethernet ports, Raid 5 Controller, Dual Power Supplies. Located near UCF. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From whittake at sbaflorida.com Fri Nov 18 13:29:05 2005 From: whittake at sbaflorida.com (Homer Whittaker) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:26 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] server for sale In-Reply-To: <20051118163432.22635.qmail@web34011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051118163432.22635.qmail@web34011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <437E1D71.9000603@sbaflorida.com> Brian: I sent an e-mail to the server ad person asking how to get to see it, etc. The real question, is the server worth while AS A SERVER or will it need other things to make it work correctly. I have never done servers before but for a $175 what can I loose if it is a good training tool. Will I need to get a rack or whatever? Homer Brian Ashe wrote: > Hi all, > > This isn't a server I'm selling but one I found > locally. It sounds great and I *wish* I had a reason > to buy it but I don't so I'll be good for once and not > get it. :-) > > It's been listed for a while and was recently relisted > at a lower price and I figured if anyone could use it, > it'd be someone on this list. > > http://orlando.craigslist.org/sys/111920906.html > > DL580 Compaq Rackmount Server - $175 > > Dual Pentium 3/700 MHZ, 1 GB RAM, (4) 9 GB SCSI hard > disks, Dual ethernet ports, Raid 5 Controller, Dual > Power Supplies. Located near UCF. > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Pc_support mailing list > Pc_support@matrixlist.com > http://lists.matrixlist.com/mailman/listinfo/pc_support > From b.j.smith at ieee.org Fri Nov 18 13:33:46 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:26 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] server for sale In-Reply-To: <20051118163432.22635.qmail@web34011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051118183346.40944.qmail@web34107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Brian Ashe wrote: > Hi all, > This isn't a server I'm selling but one I found > locally. It sounds great and I *wish* I had a reason > to buy it but I don't so I'll be good for once and not > get it. :-) > It's been listed for a while and was recently relisted > at a lower price and I figured if anyone could use it, > it'd be someone on this list. > http://orlando.craigslist.org/sys/111920906.html > DL580 Compaq Rackmount Server - $175 > Dual Pentium 3/700 MHZ, 1 GB RAM, (4) 9 GB SCSI hard > disks, Dual ethernet ports, Raid 5 Controller, Dual > Power Supplies. Located near UCF. I've been seriously considering adding another dual-P3 server (a dedicated Fedora Directory Server separate from main file services) at home, and this would be a _great_ fit! -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith@ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) From jasonb at edseek.com Fri Nov 18 13:36:22 2005 From: jasonb at edseek.com (Jason Boxman) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:26 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] server for sale In-Reply-To: <20051118163432.22635.qmail@web34011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051118163432.22635.qmail@web34011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200511181336.22898.jasonb@edseek.com> On Friday 18 November 2005 11:34, Brian Ashe wrote: > DL580 Compaq Rackmount Server - $175 > > Dual Pentium 3/700 MHZ, 1 GB RAM, (4) 9 GB SCSI hard > disks, Dual ethernet ports, Raid 5 Controller, Dual > Power Supplies. Located near UCF. Odd no one's interested. I'm running a dual P3 system now based on the ServerWorks IIILE chipset and it flies as a server. Far more throughput than a Socket A desktop system setup. Since it's a rackmount, it's likely a 2U and thus will be very _loud_ though. The 1GB of RAM would be quite nice as well, and is likely PC 133 ECC registered. If it works, it's actually a better deal than the $180 I spent last Fall for a desktop with a SuperMicro 370DLE board (maybe it was supposed to be a workstation) which I prompted ripped from the otherwise junk system and put in a dedicated setup with a new case, PSU, more RAM, and such. Sigh. -- Jason Boxman http://edseek.com/ - Linux and FOSS stuff From b.j.smith at ieee.org Fri Nov 18 13:59:05 2005 From: b.j.smith at ieee.org (Bryan J. Smith) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:17:26 2006 Subject: [Pc_Support] server for sale In-Reply-To: <200511181336.22898.jasonb@edseek.com> Message-ID: <20051118185905.32159.qmail@web34101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jason Boxman wrote: > Odd no one's interested. I was, I just sent off my offer (I had some car trouble earlier this morning). > I'm running a dual P3 system now based on the ServerWorks > IIILE chipset and it flies as a server. This one seems to be a IIIHE (can't verify though). > Far more throughput than a Socket A desktop system setup. Or even pre-PCIe platforms (